Announcement The "Cosmic Energy Yoga" Course (KEY)

[Веретенников Сергей]

Веретенников Сергей , am I correct in understanding that the Energy Chats you conduct for us will be something we can conduct for ourselves and others at any time, and always remain in the energy flow we need—in the energies of health, purification, good fortune, protection, and wealth?

How will this training-initiation affect my current energy level and my activity in the material world?
I asked the question and found the answer; perhaps it will be useful to someone else too:


How will this training-initiation affect my abilities, extrasensory abilities, and third eye?

Yes, you will be able to conduct similar Energy Chats for yourself and anyone you wish.
And remain in these energies for as long as you wish.
It starts easily; the course materials explain how.

Extrasensory abilities usually become stronger. There is a great deal of work specifically with Kundalini, Sahasrara, and the Cosmos. Not with Kundalini in the way it is described—as something exploding in the brain
It is a different process. Kundalini is life force; it begins to be used wisely so that it lasts for a long life.


But my level is higher, so my Energy Chats will always be stronger.

Not in the sense that KAY is divided into levels, but in the sense that, besides KAY, I have many other similar things.

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/school/en/goto/post?id=18503" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-18503">55555 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent "> <style> .avatar--xss { width: 21px; height: 21px; line-height: 21px !important; margin-right: 2px; } </style> <span> <a href="/school/en/members/veretennikov-sergej.1/" class="avatar avatar--xss" data-user-id="1" data-xf-init="member-tooltip"> <img src="/school/data/avatars/s/0/1.jpg?1704448620" alt="Веретенников Сергей" class="avatar-u1-s" /> </a> <a href="https://www.youryoga.ru/school/en/members/1/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="1" data-username="@Веретенников Сергей">Веретенников Сергей</a> </span>, am I correct in understanding that the Energy Chats you conduct for us will be something we can conduct for ourselves and others at any time, and always remain in the energy flow we need—in the energies of health, purification, good fortune, protection, and wealth?<br /> <br /> How will this training-initiation affect my current energy level and my activity in the material world?<br /> I asked the question and found the answer; perhaps it will be useful to someone else too:<br /> <br /> <br /> How will this training-initiation affect my abilities, extrasensory abilities, and third eye? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Yes, you will be able to conduct similar Energy Chats for yourself and anyone you wish.<br /> And remain in these energies for as long as you wish.<br /> It starts easily; the course materials explain how.<br /> <br /> Extrasensory abilities usually become stronger. There is a great deal of work specifically with Kundalini, Sahasrara, and the Cosmos. Not with Kundalini in the way it is described—as something exploding in the brain <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /><br /> It is a different process. Kundalini is life force; it begins to be used wisely so that it lasts for a long life.<br /> <br /> <br /> But my level is higher, so my Energy Chats will always be stronger.<br /> <br /> Not in the sense that KAY is divided into levels, but in the sense that, besides KAY, I have many other similar things.</div>

 

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Good afternoon! OM Shanti, please tell me, will it be possible to affect a person with KAY energy without their permission? My own aunt is bedridden (paralyzed) after a massive stroke. Sometimes she speaks in a voice that is not her own, harsher and more commanding; she probably has an entity. I would like to help her at least a little and ease her condition. And regarding other people, is it permissible to affect them with energy without notifying them or obtaining their permission?

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<div class="bbWrapper">Good afternoon! OM Shanti, please tell me, will it be possible to affect a person with KAY energy without their permission? My own aunt is bedridden (paralyzed) after a massive stroke. Sometimes she speaks in a voice that is not her own, harsher and more commanding; she probably has an entity. I would like to help her at least a little and ease her condition. And regarding other people, is it permissible to affect them with energy without notifying them or obtaining their permission?</div>

 

[Веретенников Сергей]

Good afternoon! OM Shanti, please tell me, will it be possible to affect a person with KAY energy without their permission? My own aunt is bedridden (paralyzed) after a massive stroke. Sometimes she speaks in a voice that is not her own, harsher and more commanding; she probably has an entity. I would like to help her at least a little and ease her condition. And regarding other people, is it permissible to affect them with energy without notifying them or obtaining their permission?

Let us briefly return to our ordinary life.
A person is lying in the road.
Unconscious or only partially conscious. Something has happened to them. Perhaps a stroke, a heart problem, fainting—anything.
No one is going to ask them whether you may help.
That is not something you ask.

You can do good until someone tells you: That's enough!
If they say no, then don't do it.
If they haven't said it isn't needed, then do good.

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/school/en/goto/post?id=18505" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-18505">216 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent "> Good afternoon! OM Shanti, please tell me, will it be possible to affect a person with KAY energy without their permission? My own aunt is bedridden (paralyzed) after a massive stroke. Sometimes she speaks in a voice that is not her own, harsher and more commanding; she probably has an entity. I would like to help her at least a little and ease her condition. And regarding other people, is it permissible to affect them with energy without notifying them or obtaining their permission? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Let us briefly return to our ordinary life.<br /> A person is lying in the road.<br /> Unconscious or only partially conscious. Something has happened to them. Perhaps a stroke, a heart problem, fainting—anything.<br /> No one is going to ask them whether you may help.<br /> That is not something you ask.<br /> <br /> You can do good until someone tells you: That's enough!<br /> If they say no, then don't do it.<br /> If they haven't said it isn't needed, then do good.</div>

 

[369]

. Kundalini is the life force; it begins to be used wisely so that it will last for a long life.

Om Shanti, but isn't kundalini energy infinite? Are there limitations for a person in their current life? In other words, is a person given enough Kundalini energy for 100 years, but they use it up in 50 and therefore pass away early? Somehow, I imagined that kundalini was not a separate stream of energy connected to the cosmos, but a single whole.

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/school/en/goto/post?id=18504" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-18504">Веретенников Сергей said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent "> . Kundalini is the life force; it begins to be used wisely so that it will last for a long life. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Om Shanti, but isn't kundalini energy infinite? Are there limitations for a person in their current life? In other words, is a person given enough Kundalini energy for 100 years, but they use it up in 50 and therefore pass away early? Somehow, I imagined that kundalini was not a separate stream of energy connected to the cosmos, but a single whole.</div>

 

[108777]

But my level is higher, so my EnergoChats will always be stronger.

OM Shanti, Namaste!
Does the personality of the person initiating this process still matter?
For example, does my personal purity affect how people receive energy during the sessions I initiate?

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/school/en/goto/post?id=18504" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-18504">Веретенников Сергей said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent "> But my level is higher, so my EnergoChats will always be stronger. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>OM Shanti, Namaste!<br /> Does the personality of the person initiating this process still matter?<br /> For example, does my personal purity affect how people receive energy during the sessions I initiate?</div>

 

[369]

But my level is higher, so my EnergoChats will always be stronger.

Om Shanti, are these levels also planned for the future?

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/school/en/goto/post?id=18504" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-18504">Веретенников Сергей said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent "> But my level is higher, so my EnergoChats will always be stronger. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Om Shanti, are these levels also planned for the future?</div>

 

[Веретенников Сергей]

Om Shanti, are these levels also planned for the future?

These are not levels; they are other Systems, but they are also cosmic. I cannot initiate anyone into them yet.
Only into KAY.

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/school/en/goto/post?id=18510" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-18510">369 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent "> Om Shanti, are these levels also planned for the future? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>These are not levels; they are other Systems, but they are also cosmic. I cannot initiate anyone into them yet.<br /> Only into KAY.</div>

 

[Веретенников Сергей]

OM Shanti, Namaste!
Does the personality of the person initiating this process still matter?
For example, does my personal purity affect how people receive energy during the sessions I initiate?

No, it does not. This is not bioenergy; these are cosmic energies. They come from the cosmos.

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/school/en/goto/post?id=18509" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-18509">108777 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent "> OM Shanti, Namaste!<br /> Does the personality of the person initiating this process still matter?<br /> For example, does my personal purity affect how people receive energy during the sessions I initiate? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>No, it does not. This is not bioenergy; these are cosmic energies. They come from the cosmos.</div>

 

[873415]

Let's return for a moment to our ordinary life.
A person is lying in the road.
Unconscious or partly conscious. Something has happened to them. Perhaps a stroke, a heart attack, fainting—anything.
No one would ask them whether it was all right to help them.
That is not something one asks.

You can do good until someone tells you: That's enough!
If they say no, then don't do it.
If they haven't said it isn't necessary, then do good.

Teacher, I have struggled with this question for many years. Should one do good if they are not asked? Should one help if one can and sees that the person needs it, but they do not ask? As in that parable about the peasant and the livestock that fell into a pit. They helped the one who asked for help.
This is a very important dilemma for me.
Should one help? (*Should one save alcoholics if they cannot stop on their own...? And later they are grateful that they were rescued.)

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/school/en/goto/post?id=18506" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-18506">Веретенников Сергей said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent "> Let's return for a moment to our ordinary life.<br /> A person is lying in the road.<br /> Unconscious or partly conscious. Something has happened to them. Perhaps a stroke, a heart attack, fainting—anything.<br /> No one would ask them whether it was all right to help them.<br /> That is not something one asks.<br /> <br /> You can do good until someone tells you: That's enough!<br /> If they say no, then don't do it.<br /> If they haven't said it isn't necessary, then do good. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Teacher, I have struggled with this question for many years. Should one do good if they are not asked? Should one help if one can and sees that the person needs it, but they do not ask? As in that parable about the peasant and the livestock that fell into a pit. They helped the one who asked for help.<br /> This is a very important dilemma for me.<br /> Should one help? (*Should one save alcoholics if they cannot stop on their own...? And later they are grateful that they were rescued.)</div>

 

[Веретенников Сергей]

873415 , Master Dang often repeated one phrase: "Only a person can help a person."
This means that, whatever the divine force may be, there must be someone who goes and acts in a physical body. In other words, some person's action is required.
It does not mean that some physical work literally has to be done. It could simply be sending Energy from a distance.

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<div class="bbWrapper"><style> .avatar--xss { width: 21px; height: 21px; line-height: 21px !important; margin-right: 2px; } </style> <span> <a href="/school/en/members/873415.64/" class="avatar avatar--xss" data-user-id="64" data-xf-init="member-tooltip"> <img src="/school/data/avatars/s/0/64.jpg?1748151387" alt="873415" class="avatar-u64-s" /> </a> <a href="https://www.youryoga.ru/school/en/members/64/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="64" data-username="@873415">873415</a> </span>, Master Dang often repeated one phrase: "Only a person can help a person."<br /> This means that, whatever the divine force may be, there must be someone who goes and acts in a physical body. In other words, some person's action is required.<br /> It does not mean that some physical work literally has to be done. It could simply be sending Energy from a distance.</div>

 

[230261]

Namaste! What is the difference between KAY and Vsepolе, or are they similar?

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<div class="bbWrapper">Namaste! What is the difference between KAY and Vsepolе, or are they similar?</div>

 

[Веретенников Сергей]

Namaste! What is the difference between KAY and Vsepole, or are they similar?

Yes, they are similar.

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/school/en/goto/post?id=18517" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-18517">230261 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent "> Namaste! What is the difference between KAY and Vsepole, or are they similar? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Yes, they are similar.</div>

 

[78543]

Om Shanti, namaste! Could you please tell me whether it would be possible to schedule the cleansing sessions and initiation around lunchtime? How long will they take?

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<div class="bbWrapper">Om Shanti, namaste! Could you please tell me whether it would be possible to schedule the cleansing sessions and initiation around lunchtime? How long will they take?</div>

 

[Веретенников Сергей]

Om Shanti, namaste! Could you please tell me whether it would be possible to schedule the cleansing sessions and initiation around lunchtime? How long will they take?

I usually suggest a time around 21:00 Moscow time.
They take about 10 minutes. Usually, 5 sessions are enough, but I can do more if necessary.

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/school/en/goto/post?id=18520" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-18520">78543 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent "> Om Shanti, namaste! Could you please tell me whether it would be possible to schedule the cleansing sessions and initiation around lunchtime? How long will they take? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I usually suggest a time around 21:00 Moscow time.<br /> They take about 10 minutes. Usually, 5 sessions are enough, but I can do more if necessary.</div>

 

[78543]

Thank you! 21:00 Moscow time works well too.

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<div class="bbWrapper">Thank you! 21:00 Moscow time works well too.</div>

 

[369]

When thinking about KAY, for some reason I get an image of a double pyramid, as if there is something that unites them. Om Shanti, it seems to me that they are like brothers, with KAY being the older brother!

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<div class="bbWrapper">When thinking about KAY, for some reason I get an image of a double pyramid, as if there is something that unites them. Om Shanti, it seems to me that they are like brothers, with KAY being the older brother!</div>

 

[070787]

Namaste, Om Shanti! You wrote that Vsepole is similar to KAY. Would it make sense to practice Vsepole after receiving the KAY initiation? What difference will remain between them?

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<div class="bbWrapper">Namaste, Om Shanti! You wrote that Vsepole is similar to KAY. Would it make sense to practice Vsepole after receiving the KAY initiation? What difference will remain between them?</div>

 

[Веретенников Сергей]

Namaste, Om Shanti! You wrote that Vsepole is similar to KAY. Would it make sense to practice Vsepole after receiving the KAY initiation? What difference will remain between them?

Let me give an example.
At present, practically everyone who has classical Reiki also has many other initiations, into other systems. Or they are developing in other systems as well.
This is a feature of our information age, which is developing broadly in all directions.
In the past, a person received one system (religion), and that was the maximum for them.
Now everything is changing.
Many systems are becoming available. People are also capable of receiving more and more, thanks, for example, to the internet.

Something new will always attract us. Something new gives us hope that it will provide what the previous system did not.

I would put it this way: the more universal a person is, the stronger they are.
And a person becomes universal by going through many different systems.

But one can also devote oneself diligently to a single system. This is often enough.

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/school/en/goto/post?id=18531" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-18531">070787 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent "> Namaste, Om Shanti! You wrote that Vsepole is similar to KAY. Would it make sense to practice Vsepole after receiving the KAY initiation? What difference will remain between them? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Let me give an example.<br /> At present, practically everyone who has classical Reiki also has many other initiations, into other systems. Or they are developing in other systems as well.<br /> This is a feature of our information age, which is developing broadly in all directions.<br /> In the past, a person received one system (religion), and that was the maximum for them.<br /> Now everything is changing.<br /> Many systems are becoming available. People are also capable of receiving more and more, thanks, for example, to the internet.<br /> <br /> Something new will always attract us. Something new gives us hope that it will provide what the previous system did not.<br /> <br /> I would put it this way: the more universal a person is, the stronger they are.<br /> And a person becomes universal by going through many different systems.<br /> <br /> But one can also devote oneself diligently to a single system. This is often enough.</div>

 

[1709]

I am going through the first part of the KAY training—the stage of daily cleansing sessions. It is powerful and elevated, while at the same time I can feel subtle energies. After the sessions, for 24 hours I feel the energy coming in and somehow working and interacting with me again. I want to be more open to it.

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<div class="bbWrapper">I am going through the first part of the KAY training—the stage of daily cleansing sessions. It is powerful and elevated, while at the same time I can feel subtle energies. After the sessions, for 24 hours I feel the energy coming in and somehow working and interacting with me again. I want to be more open to it.</div>

 

[3672]

I can’t pay with a MIR card; it says “payment rejected by the security service.” I tried another card, but got the same result.

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<div class="bbWrapper">I can’t pay with a MIR card; it says “payment rejected by the security service.” I tried another card, but got the same result.</div>