Who Are Demons?

[21778]

Namaste!
Sergey Vasilyevich, thank you for such an interesting topic!
To be honest, while reading it, my energy centers became stirred up: the heart center and the one in the solar plexus. I felt a response—even a cry from the soul.
Please keep writing!

In the context of this topic, I don’t understand who I am. Or rather, I know from my actions, but I want to break free from this because it feels bad.
I know that I can.

I don’t know whether any of my close ancestors followed a non-killing diet. Certainly no one in my family did. I stopped eating meat in 2016. That was the year I discovered the Your Yoga website.
But I had to cook meat for my growing son. Yes, I really did wash my face with tears... and bought it and cooked it. The feelings were mixed. I have made, and continue to make, attempts to persuade my son—even if only to minimize his meat consumption somewhat (without magic). We have managed to achieve something.
Now he has been preparing his own food for more than a year...
The next step is to live separately. And not only because my son has grown up.

It is becoming difficult to interact with people, including those close to me. The overwhelming majority of them behave exactly as described above.

This is a difficult lesson for me.

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<div class="bbWrapper">Namaste!<br /> Sergey Vasilyevich, thank you for such an interesting topic!<img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🙏" title="Folded hands :pray:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/joypixels/emoji-assets@5.0/png/64/1f64f.png" data-shortname=":pray:" /><br /> To be honest, while reading it, my energy centers became stirred up: the heart center and the one in the solar plexus. I felt a response—even a cry from the soul.<br /> Please keep writing!<br /> <br /> In the context of this topic, I don’t understand who I am. Or rather, I know from my actions, but I want to break free from this because it feels bad.<br /> I know that I can.<br /> <br /> I don’t know whether any of my close ancestors followed a non-killing diet. Certainly no one in my family did. I stopped eating meat in 2016. That was the year I discovered the Your Yoga website.<br /> But I had to cook meat for my growing son. Yes, I really did wash my face with tears... and bought it and cooked it. The feelings were mixed. I have made, and continue to make, attempts to persuade my son—even if only to minimize his meat consumption somewhat (without magic). We have managed to achieve something.<br /> Now he has been preparing his own food for more than a year...<br /> The next step is to live separately. And not only because my son has grown up.<br /> <br /> It is becoming difficult to interact with people, including those close to me. The overwhelming majority of them behave exactly as described above.<br /> <br /> This is a difficult lesson for me.</div>

 

[1994]

A very interesting and challenging topic; thank you, Om Shanti, for discussing it! People contain everything from both essences in different proportions. The aspects of ourselves that we support and cultivate are the qualities of our nature. I will be glad to see this topic continued!

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<div class="bbWrapper"><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="❤" title="Red heart :heart:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/joypixels/emoji-assets@5.0/png/64/2764.png" data-shortname=":heart:" /> <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="☀" title="Sun :sunny:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/joypixels/emoji-assets@5.0/png/64/2600.png" data-shortname=":sunny:" /> A very interesting and challenging topic; thank you, Om Shanti, for discussing it! People contain everything from both essences in different proportions. The aspects of ourselves that we support and cultivate are the qualities of our nature. I will be glad to see this topic continued!</div>

 

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Perhaps life itself presents some people with lessons; once they have learned them and successfully passed the exam, something changes within.
For example, travelers—I may be mistaken—would take rusks with them to reduce their load, burying them along the way. If they could not find them on the return journey, they would die.
Some people simply have no means to buy anything like that, while others have simply grown accustomed to clogging their bodies with corpse poisons.
Food has a strong influence on the body, the temple of the soul, but not everyone accepts food for cleansing Karma (without the energy of killing).
Life itself presents me with choices, sometimes difficult, though not fatal: there are times when I have nothing to eat and drink chicory with honey, but this is temporary. There is still much for me to realize; I understand that eating the right food is better, but habits and the availability of the wrong food personally prevent me from making the right choice. Periods of fasting partly compensate for this, but that is only temporary.
Perhaps I should not have written all this; I simply decided to record something too, since there have been so many responses. I think that if simple and healthy food were promoted more, prepared similarly to Doshirak, which is part of my everyday diet, it would be easier for those “demons” to switch to the other side.

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<div class="bbWrapper">Perhaps life itself presents some people with lessons; once they have learned them and successfully passed the exam, something changes within.<br /> For example, travelers—I may be mistaken—would take rusks with them to reduce their load, burying them along the way. If they could not find them on the return journey, they would die.<br /> Some people simply have no means to buy anything like that, while others have simply grown accustomed to clogging their bodies with corpse poisons.<br /> Food has a strong influence on the body, the temple of the soul, but not everyone accepts food for cleansing Karma (without the energy of killing).<br /> Life itself presents me with choices, sometimes difficult, though not fatal: there are times when I have nothing to eat and drink chicory with honey, but this is temporary. There is still much for me to realize; I understand that eating the right food is better, but habits and the availability of the wrong food personally prevent me from making the right choice. Periods of fasting partly compensate for this, but that is only temporary.<br /> Perhaps I should not have written all this; I simply decided to record something too, since there have been so many responses. I think that if simple and healthy food were promoted more, prepared similarly to Doshirak, which is part of my everyday diet, it would be easier for those “demons” to switch to the other side.</div>

 

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Sergey Vasilyevich clearly demonstrated, using the example of a Krishna devotee, how one can understand whether a person’s nature is demonic or divine. I also remembered an incident from my own life, and it became clear what kind of people had surrounded me. On Facebook, a writer from Ukraine spoke very beautifully about peace, friendship, and love, created groups, and invited me to be an administrator of one of them. I managed it on my own, promoted it, and went on vacation, warning him that I would be away for a month because there would be no internet where I was going. When I returned, I saw that he had put another woman in my place, and said to me, “When the forest is cut down, chips fly.” It was hurtful to realize that, for him, people were apparently just wood chips in his “great cause of enlightenment.”
Another man, also the owner of a Facebook group, acted in the opposite way: he waited a whole year and did not remove me from his group, so that I could return and become an administrator again. Such different people: one will walk over others for the sake of his beloved self, while the other will be afraid of offending someone and will wait as long as necessary)))

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<div class="bbWrapper"><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🌹" title="Rose :rose:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/joypixels/emoji-assets@5.0/png/64/1f339.png" data-shortname=":rose:" /> Sergey Vasilyevich clearly demonstrated, using the example of a Krishna devotee, how one can understand whether a person’s nature is demonic or divine. I also remembered an incident from my own life, and it became clear what kind of people had surrounded me. On Facebook, a writer from Ukraine spoke very beautifully about peace, friendship, and love, created groups, and invited me to be an administrator of one of them. I managed it on my own, promoted it, and went on vacation, warning him that I would be away for a month because there would be no internet where I was going. When I returned, I saw that he had put another woman in my place, and said to me, “When the forest is cut down, chips fly.” It was hurtful to realize that, for him, people were apparently just wood chips in his “great cause of enlightenment.”<br /> Another man, also the owner of a Facebook group, acted in the opposite way: he waited a whole year and did not remove me from his group, so that I could return and become an administrator again. Such different people: one will walk over others for the sake of his beloved self, while the other will be afraid of offending someone and will wait as long as necessary)))</div>

 

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The topic is definitely interesting; thank you, OM Shanti. It is indeed very interesting: can beings of a demonic nature become divine in nature if they wish? And conversely, can a divine nature be replaced by a demonic one? Perhaps there are some intermediate states, like 50/50?)
For example, there are people who have not eaten meat for ten years but then return to it. How should we understand this?
How can one know one’s nature for certain?

Sometimes, when I enter the community of devotees of the largest Vaishnava organization, I am very surprised by the practically unanimous support for all of this, with rare exceptions.
It seems very strange and incomprehensible to me. After all, they repeat mantras, do not eat meat, perform rituals, worship, and have been involved in this subject for decades, yet they repeat all the slogans of the propaganda. Does this mean that all of them have a demonic nature?

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<div class="bbWrapper">The topic is definitely interesting; thank you, OM Shanti. It is indeed very interesting: can beings of a demonic nature become divine in nature if they wish? And conversely, can a divine nature be replaced by a demonic one? Perhaps there are some intermediate states, like 50/50?) <br /> For example, there are people who have not eaten meat for ten years but then return to it. How should we understand this?<br /> How can one know one’s nature for certain? <br /> <br /> Sometimes, when I enter the community of devotees of the largest Vaishnava organization, I am very surprised by the practically unanimous support for all of this, with rare exceptions. <br /> It seems very strange and incomprehensible to me. After all, they repeat mantras, do not eat meat, perform rituals, worship, and have been involved in this subject for decades, yet they repeat all the slogans of the propaganda. Does this mean that all of them have a demonic nature?</div>

 

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This topic struck a chord with me too. I am very grateful to the Teacher for explaining such complex concepts, which people argue about so much, in such a simple and clear way.
Does a demonic nature come down only to eating meat and following certain principles, or is there something else important and decisive? Can one renounce a demonic nature and change it...? Does such a path exist, and what is it like?

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<div class="bbWrapper">This topic struck a chord with me too. I am very grateful to the Teacher for explaining such complex concepts, which people argue about so much, in such a simple and clear way.<br /> Does a demonic nature come down only to eating meat and following certain principles, or is there something else important and decisive? Can one renounce a demonic nature and change it...? Does such a path exist, and what is it like?</div>

 

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The topic is very interesting! I look forward to the continuation, OM Shanti! Thank you!

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<div class="bbWrapper">The topic is very interesting! I look forward to the continuation, OM Shanti! Thank you!</div>

 

[1994]

I continue to reflect on this subject. There are things that are more unambiguous, defining a person’s nature. A whole person who demonstrates through their actions and their life their commitment to one nature. I’m writing in general terms. There are controversial points, when, for example, someone who seems spiritually developed in many respects becomes soulless, indifferent, or cowardly at certain moments. Most likely, they do not become that way but have always been so; in an extreme situation, the mask slips and the essence becomes visible. In this regard, I remembered a quote by Julius Fučík:
"... beware of indifferent people—for it is with their silent consent that all the most terrible crimes in the world take place."
Of course, everything depends on the situation itself; non-interference can be justified.
Another point is forgiveness. Should we forgive or not? How many times should we forgive?
A person understands themselves better, continues working on themselves, seeking strength in God, and so on. Some questions fall away as one progresses spiritually and do not arise in life. But there is something to think about: what am I like now? What kind of person am I striving to become?
An excellent topic, with unexpected twists and realizations. I will continue

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<div class="bbWrapper">I continue to reflect on this subject. There are things that are more unambiguous, defining a person’s nature. A whole person who demonstrates through their actions and their life their commitment to one nature. I’m writing in general terms. There are controversial points, when, for example, someone who seems spiritually developed in many respects becomes soulless, indifferent, or cowardly at certain moments. Most likely, they do not become that way but have always been so; in an extreme situation, the mask slips and the essence becomes visible. In this regard, I remembered a quote by Julius Fučík:<br /> "... beware of indifferent people—for it is with their silent consent that all the most terrible crimes in the world take place."<br /> Of course, everything depends on the situation itself; non-interference can be justified.<br /> Another point is forgiveness. Should we forgive or not? How many times should we forgive?<br /> A person understands themselves better, continues working on themselves, seeking strength in God, and so on. Some questions fall away as one progresses spiritually and do not arise in life. But there is something to think about: what am I like now? What kind of person am I striving to become?<br /> An excellent topic, with unexpected twists and realizations. I will continue</div>

 

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OM Shanti, thank you for opening this topic!
I’m very interested in it too. I had been thinking about something similar and am still reflecting on it in relation to myself. When I’m not hungry, and all my worries are manageable, it’s one state; but when you experience prolonged stress—helplessness, lack of money, not getting enough sleep or food, suffering losses, and being responsible for the lives of loved ones—that is a different state. During this period of trials, I observe myself. How much harder it is to be loving, understanding, and forgiving. How something like "that" sometimes rises up from within... I see it and control it, but it is there, and then it passes. Right in the moment of my unjustified anger, I recognize and observe it and put it out. But I always wonder: where is my limit? I really don’t want to reach it. This boundary between the divine and the demonic probably exists in everyone. But in the Divine ones, the bar is probably set very high; they will never cross it.

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<div class="bbWrapper">OM Shanti, thank you for opening this topic! <br /> I’m very interested in it too. I had been thinking about something similar and am still reflecting on it in relation to myself. When I’m not hungry, and all my worries are manageable, it’s one state; but when you experience prolonged stress—helplessness, lack of money, not getting enough sleep or food, suffering losses, and being responsible for the lives of loved ones—that is a different state. During this period of trials, I observe myself. How much harder it is to be loving, understanding, and forgiving. How something like "that" sometimes rises up from within... I see it and control it, but it is there, and then it passes. Right in the moment of my unjustified anger, I recognize and observe it and put it out. But I always wonder: where is my limit? I really don’t want to reach it. This boundary between the divine and the demonic probably exists in everyone. But in the Divine ones, the bar is probably set very high; they will never cross it.</div>

 

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I am also very interested in this topic, Веретенников Сергей , please continue it.

It seems to me that not everyone who has written understands the subject correctly. I myself am not entirely sure about it. Nevertheless, OM Shanti wrote about the nature of a being, which manifests, as it were, from within and determines the direction of life, manifesting to one degree or another on all possible levels.
For example, I am the kind of person described by the Teacher in the first post. It was very easy for me—literally effortless—to become a vegetarian when I realized that normal food is food that does not involve killing. Of course, “normal” for me. You know, as they say, at the snap of a finger. But nevertheless, this is not the essence of nature, but its manifestation. And I may have many questions here regarding this topic. Moreover, as a human being, I also have ambitions and an ego, and perhaps to someone I may manifest in a somewhat negative way, so to speak, depending on the time, place, and circumstances. Nevertheless, I am more inclined not to adopt a demonic disposition, although I periodically see it in other people, when the goal is paramount and they are ready to achieve it by suppressing others or at their expense. That is, I understand that I am capable of acting this way; I also have intelligence and strength, but I still have an inner feeling that it is not right to do so—that if my conscious actions and intentions cause other beings to suffer, I myself will suffer. And I want no one to suffer. I understand that this sounds utopian, and that in this world it is probably impossible—Mṛtyu-loka, after all—but I can still choose actions that will not cause others to suffer.

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<div class="bbWrapper">I am also very interested in this topic, <style> .avatar--xss { width: 21px; height: 21px; line-height: 21px !important; margin-right: 2px; } </style> <span> <a href="/school/en/members/veretennikov-sergej.1/" class="avatar avatar--xss" data-user-id="1" data-xf-init="member-tooltip"> <img src="/school/data/avatars/s/0/1.jpg?1704448620" alt="Веретенников Сергей" class="avatar-u1-s" /> </a> <a href="https://www.youryoga.ru/school/en/members/1/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="1" data-username="@Веретенников Сергей">Веретенников Сергей</a> </span>, please continue it.<br /> <br /> It seems to me that not everyone who has written understands the subject correctly. I myself am not entirely sure about it. Nevertheless, OM Shanti wrote about the nature of a being, which manifests, as it were, from within and determines the direction of life, manifesting to one degree or another on all possible levels.<br /> For example, I am the kind of person described by the Teacher in the first post. It was very easy for me—literally effortless—to become a vegetarian when I realized that normal food is food that does not involve killing. Of course, “normal” for me. You know, as they say, at the snap of a finger. But nevertheless, this is not the essence of nature, but its manifestation. And I may have many questions here regarding this topic. Moreover, as a human being, I also have ambitions and an ego, and perhaps to someone I may manifest in a somewhat negative way, so to speak, depending on the time, place, and circumstances. Nevertheless, I am more inclined not to adopt a demonic disposition, although I periodically see it in other people, when the goal is paramount and they are ready to achieve it by suppressing others or at their expense. That is, I understand that I am capable of acting this way; I also have intelligence and strength, but I still have an inner feeling that it is not right to do so—that if my conscious actions and intentions cause other beings to suffer, I myself will suffer. And I want no one to suffer. I understand that this sounds utopian, and that in this world it is probably impossible—Mṛtyu-loka, after all—but I can still choose actions that will not cause others to suffer.</div>

 

[1994]

An excellent topic, with unexpected twists and realizations. I will continue.

So far, my conclusion is:
Both the divine and the demonic exist in human nature; they will manifest in one way or another. One must consciously govern their nature.
I would put it carefully: Create your will and your tasks in synchronization with the will of the Absolute, taking into account an awareness of all possible cause-and-effect relationships (CERs).

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/school/en/goto/post?id=60662" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-60662">1994 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent "> An excellent topic, with unexpected twists and realizations. I will continue. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>So far, my conclusion is:<br /> Both the divine and the demonic exist in human nature; they will manifest in one way or another. One must consciously govern their nature.<br /> I would put it carefully: Create your will and your tasks in synchronization with the will of the Absolute, taking into account an awareness of all possible cause-and-effect relationships (CERs).</div>

 

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5 5678 , quoted message

That resonates strongly with me; it often happens that way for me too. If there is no balance, it is very difficult to follow the chosen path.

1448 , I liked the way you put it. Perhaps it is reason that helps when instincts throw one off course. And yet, does a person determine for themselves what kind of nature they have...?! Can they...?
And so, the more developed the person, the more difficult the test for them: if it was easy to give up meat, then it is more difficult to give up principles, spirituality, and the EGO. And perhaps the main indicator is precisely the final conscious renunciation...?

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<div class="bbWrapper"><style> .avatar--xss { width: 21px; height: 21px; line-height: 21px !important; margin-right: 2px; } </style> <span> <a href="/school/en/members/5678.100/" class="avatar avatar--xss avatar--default avatar--default--dynamic" data-user-id="100" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" style="background-color: #666633; color: #c3c388"> <span class="avatar-u100-s">5</span> </a> <a href="https://www.youryoga.ru/school/en/members/100/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="100" data-username="@5678">5678</a> </span>, <a href="https://www.youryoga.ru/school/en/threads/3046/post-60676" class="link link--internal">quoted message</a><br /> <br /> That resonates strongly with me; it often happens that way for me too. If there is no balance, it is very difficult to follow the chosen path.<br /> <br /> <style> .avatar--xss { width: 21px; height: 21px; line-height: 21px !important; margin-right: 2px; } </style> <span> <a href="/school/en/members/1448.42/" class="avatar avatar--xss" data-user-id="42" data-xf-init="member-tooltip"> <img src="/school/data/avatars/s/0/42.jpg?1599892136" alt="1448" class="avatar-u42-s" /> </a> <a href="https://www.youryoga.ru/school/en/members/42/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="42" data-username="@1448">1448</a> </span>, I liked the way you put it. Perhaps it is reason that helps when instincts throw one off course. And yet, does a person determine for themselves what kind of nature they have...?! Can they...?<br /> And so, the more developed the person, the more difficult the test for them: if it was easy to give up meat, then it is more difficult to give up principles, spirituality, and the EGO. And perhaps the main indicator is precisely the final conscious renunciation...?</div>

 

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Both are full of their own EGO and personal ambitions.

Sergey Vasilyevich, does this mean that one can be Sur—a God—but not an enlightened being? Because as I understand Enlightenment, it is the death of the EGO, the death of the Personality in the generally accepted sense...

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/school/en/goto/post?id=60581" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-60581">Веретенников Сергей said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent "> Both are full of their own EGO and personal ambitions. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Sergey Vasilyevich, does this mean that one can be Sur—a God—but not an enlightened being? Because as I understand Enlightenment, it is the death of the EGO, the death of the Personality in the generally accepted sense...</div>

 

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Exactly: being aware of the suffering of living beings. The ability to feel compassion, but not out of fear,
but out of love. Not out of fear that my actions might cause someone harm.
Perhaps someone may even be burned by my coldness or warmth.
For example, when a person wants their viewpoint not only to be accepted (there’s no escaping the fact), but also supported in practice. And becomes deeply upset/angry when this does not happen. While this person wants you to eat corpses, just as they do, and to drink alcohol, just as they do ...

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<div class="bbWrapper"><style> .avatar--xss { width: 21px; height: 21px; line-height: 21px !important; margin-right: 2px; } </style> <span> <a href="/school/en/members/1448.42/" class="avatar avatar--xss" data-user-id="42" data-xf-init="member-tooltip"> <img src="/school/data/avatars/s/0/42.jpg?1599892136" alt="1448" class="avatar-u42-s" /> </a> <a href="https://www.youryoga.ru/school/en/members/42/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="42" data-username="@1448">1448</a> </span>, <a href="https://www.youryoga.ru/school/en/threads/3046/post-60716" class="link link--internal">quoted message</a> <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🙏" title="Folded hands :pray:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/joypixels/emoji-assets@5.0/png/64/1f64f.png" data-shortname=":pray:" /><br /> <br /> Exactly: being aware of the suffering of living beings. The ability to feel compassion, but not out of fear,<br /> but out of love. Not out of fear that my actions might cause someone harm.<br /> Perhaps someone may even be burned by my coldness or warmth.<br /> For example, when a person wants their viewpoint not only to be accepted (there’s no escaping the fact), but also supported in practice. And becomes deeply upset/angry when this does not happen. While this person wants you to eat corpses, just as they do, and to drink alcohol, just as they do ...</div>

 

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Ever since this topic came up, I’ve started looking at the world from a different angle ) . And I also started watching Hanuman ) . It turned out to be very timely. Today I watched the ninth episode.
I’m walking to work today. We’ve had heavy snowfall for a couple of days ... The streets aren’t really cleared (you could insert several thematically appropriate words here) )) The town is small .. So I’m walking along the sidewalk over partially melted snow. There are practically no people around. And then, up ahead, there’s an elderly lady pulling a full shopping trolley. She also has a large bag hanging from it ... And another large bag in her left hand. I’m already getting close .. very close .. and .. as if overtaking her, I realize that I can’t not help. I can’t just walk past. Besides, it turns out we’re going the same way. The old lady was heading to the bus at the railway station. I was going that way too. (In general, this happens to me, as long as I can remember .. Even if I have to take a detour for elderly ladies (oh, I remember once driving one elderly lady around town ... As it turned out, she didn’t even know where she needed to go )) . ) But this time, I immediately remembered our topic ... Yet this incident did not answer my questions. I still think about it from time to time. Right now I think I need to get some interesting information, and then continue with the questions.

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<div class="bbWrapper">Ever since this topic came up, I’ve started looking at the world from a different angle ) . And I also started watching Hanuman ) . It turned out to be very timely. Today I watched the ninth episode.<br /> I’m walking to work today. We’ve had heavy snowfall for a couple of days ... The streets aren’t really cleared (you could insert several thematically appropriate words here) )) The town is small .. So I’m walking along the sidewalk over partially melted snow. There are practically no people around. And then, up ahead, there’s an elderly lady pulling a full shopping trolley. She also has a large bag hanging from it ... And another large bag in her left hand. I’m already getting close .. very close .. and .. as if overtaking her, I realize that I can’t not help. I can’t just walk past. Besides, it turns out we’re going the same way. The old lady was heading to the bus at the railway station. I was going that way too. (In general, this happens to me, as long as I can remember .. Even if I have to take a detour for elderly ladies (oh, I remember once driving one elderly lady around town ... As it turned out, she didn’t even know where she needed to go )) . ) But this time, I immediately remembered our topic ... Yet this incident did not answer my questions. I still think about it from time to time. Right now I think I need to get some interesting information, and then continue with the questions.</div>

 

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Thank you for the topic. Of course, it’s interesting.
But during this vibrational transition period of ours, perhaps it is no longer so important what kind of nature we bring into our incarnations; what matters much more is what we are like now, taking into account all our experience of life, communication, diet, and so on.
After all, we are currently developing our consciousness and awareness, respecting our bodies, and it is important to find that spiritual-material golden mean that does not divide and separate, but, on the contrary, unites and brings together the very best.

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<div class="bbWrapper">Thank you for the topic. Of course, it’s interesting.<br /> But during this vibrational transition period of ours, perhaps it is no longer so important what kind of nature we bring into our incarnations; what matters much more is what we are like now, taking into account all our experience of life, communication, diet, and so on.<br /> After all, we are currently developing our consciousness and awareness, respecting our bodies, and it is important to find that spiritual-material golden mean that does not divide and separate, but, on the contrary, unites and brings together the very best.</div>

 

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Still, your account seems contradictory to me.
One could add the category of “ignorance.”
I have a friend. Very religious. He prays and observes all the rituals.
However, he also supports the current hostilities.
I cannot call him self-serving or bloodthirsty. The term “God’s dandelion” would suit him better.
But in his “world,” there are certain beliefs of its own.
That we have the best government in the world.
That another country has succumbed to fascism and must be liberated immediately.
At the same time, in everyday life he wouldn’t hurt even a fly.
I can’t call him a demon. A lost sheep would be more fitting.

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<div class="bbWrapper">Still, your account seems contradictory to me.<br /> One could add the category of “ignorance.”<br /> I have a friend. Very religious. He prays and observes all the rituals.<br /> However, he also supports the current hostilities.<br /> I cannot call him self-serving or bloodthirsty. The term “God’s dandelion” would suit him better.<br /> But in his “world,” there are certain beliefs of its own.<br /> That we have the best government in the world.<br /> That another country has succumbed to fascism and must be liberated immediately.<br /> At the same time, in everyday life he wouldn’t hurt even a fly.<br /> I can’t call him a demon. A lost sheep would be more fitting.</div>

 

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Deep down, your friend seems like a very good person to me; it’s just that many people nowadays live without being aware of reality, under the influence of NLP, which comes at them from everywhere. They’re also called zombies, no offense intended. Some are very susceptible and believe everything.

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In general, it’s a strange combination of phrases: “he wouldn’t hurt a fly” and “yet he supports the war.”

Well, if he supports the war, he is a murderer. He’d be better off hurting flies.

People who pay for beef cutlets in a store are paying murderers, and are therefore cow murderers themselves.

I’ve said this many times already.

Yet at the same time, they’ll put on an innocent, kindly look and pretend to be so kind, devout, and merciful...

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<div class="bbWrapper">In general, it’s a strange combination of phrases: “he wouldn’t hurt a fly” and “yet he supports the war.”<br /> <br /> Well, if he supports the war, he is a murderer. He’d be better off hurting flies.<br /> <br /> People who pay for beef cutlets in a store are paying murderers, and are therefore cow murderers themselves.<br /> <br /> I’ve said this many times already.<br /> <br /> Yet at the same time, they’ll put on an innocent, kindly look and pretend to be so kind, devout, and merciful...</div>

 

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So for people of a divine nature, it is literally a fight for survival. After all, they are surrounded by demonic people—spouses, relatives, friends, colleagues, and so on—who are ready to cross any boundary and commit any crime, things that divine people are incapable of. And what is saddest and most dangerous is that divine people do not expect such behavior from others until they have gained bitter life experience, while demonic people may walk all over others, run over you with a tank, kill, and feel pity at the same time. Of that small percentage of divine people, how many have been broken or destroyed morally or physically?

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<div class="bbWrapper">So for people of a divine nature, it is literally a fight for survival. After all, they are surrounded by demonic people—spouses, relatives, friends, colleagues, and so on—who are ready to cross any boundary and commit any crime, things that divine people are incapable of. And what is saddest and most dangerous is that divine people do not expect such behavior from others until they have gained bitter life experience, while demonic people may walk all over others, run over you with a tank, kill, and feel pity at the same time. Of that small percentage of divine people, how many have been broken or destroyed morally or physically?</div>