Time and distance are the same thing. And neither exists!

Веретенников Сергей · Nov 14, 2024

In a neighboring topic, at the Mahapurna School, you recently tried to say what energy is and failed.
Here: What is energy?

Of course, many people passed this topic by, because thinking is quite a difficult activity...

And why bother?....

It is much easier to live like everyone else—without thinking at all, or thinking whatever you are told to think...
And why live your own life at all, when you can live the way you are told to live...

Everything turned out to be more complicated with distance and time.

Nothing is known about them either.

Moreover, people literally confuse these concepts with each other.

For example:
- Do you live far away?
- I live 10 minutes' walk from here.

In other words, people measure distance in time, and vice versa

But the funniest thing is that there is NO clear definition of either one.

I first suspected there was a problem a very long time ago, when I learned that nobody sees the Sun NOW.
Everyone sees it only in the past. Specifically, 8 minutes ago.
That is how long light takes to travel from the Sun to Earth.

And here is the real kicker!

It turns out that the farther an object is from us, the farther back in the past it is!

These two GLOBAL and most important quantities—distance and time—are one and the same.

Time determines distance, and vice versa.

But essentially, there is no distance or time if there is no observer.

Moreover, the same distance and time may be different for two different observers.

An observer near the Sun sees the Sun now.
But an observer on Earth does not see the Sun now; they see it 8 minutes later.

In other words, these two observers are:

Not in the same temporal continuum.
And not even in the same space!

People who, for example, fly to Mars will be in a different space-time from Earthlings.

Веретенников Сергей · Nov 14, 2024

If you have played any computer games, you know that you see objects that are both far away and nearby.

But in reality, this does not exist!

It is merely a FLAT screen

Why did anyone decide that the game everyone is playing now, called reality, is something different?

A very long time ago, I did not understand the term 10,000 light-years at all. How can it be years? I wondered

Years between stars? Is that a distance? Are you kidding?

But scientists simply agreed that the time it takes light to travel from one thing to another is itself a distance!!!!!!

Веретенников Сергей · Nov 14, 2024

I have said many times that if you find yourself where there is nothing, then there will be no distance or time there either.

Because there will be nothing to travel anywhere.

That is exactly what hundreds and hundreds of near-death experiences report.

Life outside the body

You cannot single something out and see something traveling from it for 10,000 light-years to something else

There is nothing there.

And you—you exist everywhere at the same time.

369 · Nov 15, 2024

Веретенников Сергей said:
You exist everywhere simultaneously.

There is an opinion—or perhaps a theory, or I would even call it a vision—that we live simultaneously in the past, present, and future, and that our soul is not only in the present moment; it is everywhere at once. I see it as a neural network, or like a mycelium!
Here and now, I am what could be called an observer in this particular moment (a mushroom)! But if I close my eyes and try to see this mycelium, at that moment the boundaries of time are erased, and space and time expand instantaneously. The one who observes this loses the boundaries of time; they forget that they are just some mushroom with a beautiful cap

. They become an observer of the whole, extending beyond a single mushroom—they are everywhere at once, in the past, present, and future!
And then there is another question: where are they truly present?

Where they lived in the Stone Age, or here, in this world, or there, where they have already passed through a billion-year journey of development and perhaps have already become an angel, for example?

And all of this is happening simultaneously!

Веретенников Сергей · Nov 15, 2024

369 , the phrase "be here and now" also begins to sound different in the context of this topic.

More precisely, it starts to sound different for anyone who CAN grasp what I have been talking about here

And as I said in the first post, 99% will pass this topic by.

They will not only know nothing about the wonderful "here and now"; they will not even know what it really means.

As for the simultaneous existence of the past and future, it has already been said that those who fly to Mars (and, in principle, even those who have already flown to the Moon) have already been in a time machine.

369 · Nov 15, 2024

Веретенников Сергей said:
As for the simultaneous existence of the past and future, it has already been said that those who fly to Mars (and, in principle, even those who have already flown to the Moon) have already been in a time machine.

Is this also relative to time? Like with the Sun?
If I consider myself the Sun, then while being within myself, I am the Sun and I see myself, but when I look at my body, I am already in the future

Веретенников Сергей · Nov 15, 2024

369 said:
Is this relative to time? What about the Sun?
If I consider myself the sun, then while being within myself, I am the sun, and I see myself, but when I look at my body, I am already in the future

Time is a product of people. Their invention.
It does not exist.
And never has.
And if there is no time, then there is no distance either.
Distance is also a product of people.
Our body does not exist either.
There is an effect known as the rubber hand illusion.
I talked about it a long time ago on the Your Yoga website.
In one of my many videos.
When the brain genuinely begins to think that a rubber hand is OUR hand.

And if the brain does not care at all what it considers to be the SELF, then our body is not us.

Or whatever the brain suddenly happens to decide it is.

It can come up with anything.

For example, the numerous EXPERIENCES (and these are FACTS) of people who were involved in accidents. For example, car accidents.
When they began to see the situation from the outside and in extreme slow motion.

The point is that at that moment, the brain had no time to identify itself with that body.

And this is already information for those who have just attended the Dreaming Conference. About sleep.
Where the brain stops clinging to this body and lets go of this false concept.

369 · Nov 15, 2024

Om Shanti, what does it mean to lose consciousness (physically)?
To find oneself outside of time?

Веретенников Сергей · Nov 16, 2024

Если Вы действительно поймёте то, что я Вам здесь рассказал - то первое что будет - это шок.

Разумеется, Вы очень далеко продвинетесь если начнёте думать то, что я говорю обычно - осознайте, как Вы вместе с землёю вращаетесь вокруг её оси, затем вокруг Солнца, как Солнце вращается вокруг центра Галактики, как Галактика вращается вокруг......

Но кто-то даже об этом не задумывается. Живёт себе: дом-работа-дом-работа...

Но суть в том, что ничто вообще никуда не движется

И не вращается.

Именно поэтому нас тут не сдувает с Планеты от ветра безумной скорости

Нет никакой скорости.

Да, допустим для наблюдателя в центре галактики Млечный путь - КАЖЕТСЯ, что наша Земля несётся с безумной скоростью вокруг него.

Нам то что с того!!!

С того что ему так кажется.

От того что ЕМУ так кажется - наша скорость для НАС никак не меняется. А точнее она как была 0 так и остаётся.

Несмотря на то что я иногда ссылаюсь на учёных, не значит что я им полностью доверяю.

Вот что они говорят:
Скорость света в вакууме определяется около 300 000 км в секунду.

Ха-ха.

Ну конечно же я пошёл и посмотрел:

Галактический год — Википедия.

И что я там вижу:

Солнечная система движется вокруг Галактического центра со средней скоростью 828000 км/ч.

Думаете я на этом остановился?

Разумеется нет.

И разумеется мои мысли такие:
Если скорость увеличивается, в зависимости куда Вы засунете своего наблюдателя - на поверхность земли, на солнце, в центр галактики, то давайте тогда уж его засунем ещё дальше!

Читаем научные факты:

Оценки скорости колеблются в широких пределах — от 130 км/с до 1000 км/с. Если Галактика движется со скоростью 600 км/с, это означает, что Земля проходит 51,84 миллиона километров в день или более 18,9 миллиарда километров в год. Это расстояние примерно в 4,6 раза больше, чем расстояние между Землей и Плутоном.

Ну так мы и на этом можем не остановиться.

Можем запихнуть наблюдателя ещё дальше.

И в конце концов настолько далеко, что ОКАЖЕТСЯ (вау) что мы буквально несёмся со скоростью света!

Но только мы никуда не несёмся.
Вообще никуда.

Веретенников Сергей · Nov 17, 2024

And here’s what’s interesting: if space = time, then we know that returning to a certain point in space where we have already been before is POSSIBLE.

And what does that mean?

I think you’ve already guessed

As you know, there is an entire field of science devoted to studying the phenomenon of returning to the past, which has been reflected in science fiction, with the Time Machine and so on.

But above I wrote that neither time, nor—especially—distance actually exists.

So where are you planning to return to?

The secret is that, usually, the hero of a science-fiction story uses one technology or another to find themselves, say, in the 15th century.

And this is what science calls returning to the past.

But as I said above, if you return to some point in the past, then you return to a point in space as well.
That is, this very 15th century is a specific place in space, at the time when the 15th century existed on Earth.

In other words, you don’t simply find yourself in the 15th century; you must also find yourself at that exact same point in space. Because time = distance.

And you need to find yourself not on the Earth that exists now, but on the “Earth” that existed at a certain point in space—which is the 15th century.

By the way, in my film The Earth Does Not Revolve Around the Sun, you can see a trail following the Earth. It is spiral-shaped.

You would have to roll back along it somehow to end up in the 15th century.

But I repeat: there is nowhere to roll back to, because there is no movement—and no time either.

You can place hundreds of different observers throughout the Universe, and they will tell you all sorts of things—completely different things. For one of them, as I said above, you might even be racing along at the speed of light

But that’s nonsense!

What do you care about other observers?

All this says just one thing: you are the only and primary observer.

You are not racing anywhere, you are not spinning, and you exist outside time.

Which means you can find yourself in any past or future.

You only need to do one small thing: get smarter

Веретенников Сергей · Nov 17, 2024

If you manage to understand what I have written here, higher-order clairvoyance will not be long in coming to you.

However, most people would rather go watch kittens on TikTok than read a couple of sentences about how the world around them is устроен. Or even about themselves.

Of course, kittens are much more interesting to watch...
They relieve stress, after all... We need to make sure we relieve this stress in time to free up space for something new

And then, before you know it, life will end on time.

By the way, about cats. And dogs and other animals too.

For example, they can foresee a tsunami, earthquake, or volcanic eruption several days in advance.

How do you think they manage to do that?

Yes, yes, scientists will tell you all those fairy tales about how they supposedly pick up some waves and vibrations from the Earth's depths...

And other nonsense.

But in fact, animals are not as fixated on their bodies as a stressed-out, overwrought person is NOW.

The living being inside this body—whether it is a cat, dog, or rat—lives within a broader framework of time. This allows its concept of “now” to include not only what is actually happening now, but also, say, what will happen three days from now.

In other words, it exists within a wider range of time.

Ancient humans could do this too, by the way.

Until they became stressed-out humans

You can regain this ability.

For example, I know for certain that all cats and dogs can start waiting a day in advance for their beloved owner, who might be returning home from a long vacation.

Simply because their NOW is not your now. Their now already includes the next three days.

191121 · Nov 17, 2024

I often thought that the past, present, and future somehow exist at one point, the so-called zero point... I have found little useful information about this, but it seems to me that this is most likely how it is...

55555 · Nov 17, 2024

Веретенников Сергей said:
All this says only one thing: you are the sole and primary observer.

If there is only one observer and that is me, then are there other people around me? Do I create all the beings around me myself?

Веретенников Сергей · Nov 17, 2024

It is noteworthy that the Vedas describe beings who could (and can now) travel through the universe at tremendous speeds, as well as travel through time.
But NONE of them ever thought of returning to the past to change the future

Perhaps their intellect was so advanced that this most foolish idea simply could not occur to them.
If only because, even if you have such an opportunity, there is no point in changing the order of things.

However, I have some more thoughts on this.

About the possibility that it is not the world around us that is moving, but rather that we are moving through the world.

Look, there is a white screen on the wall, a film strip, and a lamp.
The lamp shines on the film strip, creating the illusion of movement on the screen.

Relative to the film strip, it is the strip that moves relative to the lamp.

And relative to the lamp, it is the lamp that moves along the film strip, illuminating one frame after another.

So it may turn out that our soul is this lamp. And the soul merely moves through the frames of a film that is completely static.

It is static because the film strip cannot change the plot of the film in any way.

And it may be that, for example, there is the life of Ivan Ryabov.

And it is static. And some soul moves frame by frame, passing through the entire life of Ivan Ryabov.

Then another soul also passes through this static life.

In other words, there is a certain set of frames; they all already exist and were created by someone. Like a stencil. Have you seen stencils like that in parks? You have to stand in the same pose as the stencil. Then in another one.

And it begins to seem that we are the ones doing this.

But we are merely living through what has already been created.

In other words, our life may already have been lived by millions of different souls before us, following the stencils of our life.

And do you know why I began by saying that more advanced beings do not meddle in the past to change the future?

Because there is no point in disrupting this static structure.

These stencils.

We flow through this world.

191121 · Nov 17, 2024

And if there are plots created and repeated by someone, then we develop in order to move off the path of this set of frames, and as I understand it, the picture of the World can change completely for a person. This is my hypothesis for now, but I have the thought that there are, so to speak, observers above us watching how we behave... if I haven't gotten too intellectual about it.

Веретенников Сергей · Nov 17, 2024

191121 said:
And if there are plots created and repeated by someone, then we develop in order to move off the path of this set of frames, and as I understand it, the picture of the World can change completely for a person. This is my hypothesis for now, but I have the thought that there are, so to speak, observers above us watching how we behave... if I haven't gotten too intellectual about it.

Sleep is precisely the way out.
But it is one of the most natural, understandable, accessible to everyone, and even inevitable methods, since everyone sleeps.

369 · Nov 18, 2024

Веретенников Сергей said:
More advanced beings do not meddle in the past to change the future?

Om Shanti, but what about the records intended to change the past in order to correct, for example, a situation involving illness in the present?

373762 · Nov 18, 2024

The Devil creates the film
And leads it by the lamp’s handle,
Gives us chances to escape
And winds it up again.
Turn your soul toward God,
Go beyond the limits.
Enter once more and look
With a transcendent gaze.

55555 · Nov 18, 2024

If there is a template, then by moving through the frames of life and changing our karma for the better, we slip off this template and move onto a more favorable one—is that correct,

Веретенников Сергей ,?

Веретенников Сергей · Nov 18, 2024

369 said:
Ом Шанти, а как же регистры которые направлены на изменение прошлого, что-бы исправить например ситуацию с болезнью в настоящем?

Я могу предполагать, что это тоже часть программы.
Т.е. часть сюжета статичной ленты. Что на каком-то кадре статичной жизни, сквозь которую бежит душа, приходит Мастер КЭЙ и делает определённые вещи, после чего жизнь какбы "меняется", но это уже было в этой статичной киноленте.
Поймите, Вы - как зритель в кинотеатре, не знаете что будет.

Я недавно услышал что делали эксперимент на голубях.
В голубятне давали корм только после того как они постучат клювом по коробке.
Вначале голубь случайно ударил по коробке - и о чудо! Посыпался корм.
Снова постучал - снова посыпался.
Какие же они умные, эти голуби! Кстати это абсолютная правда, голуби очень умные.
Но!
Эксперимент продолжился.
Теперь была такая ситуация: Голубь стучал клювом, а корм не сыпался!
Он снова стучал - и ничего.
И вот совершенно случайным образом корм снова посыпался, даже тогда когда голубь не стучал клювом.
И вот тут - просто улёт!
Умный голубь запоминал КОГДА начинал сыпаться корм, после чего.
В каком он положении был в тот момент, что делал.
Например вдруг так оказывалось, что в момент когда корм случайным образом начинал сыпаться когда голубь стоял на одной ноге - то, желая чтобы корм снова посыпался, голубь - становился на одну ногу. Пытаясь заставить корм таким образом начать сыпаться.
Если он чистил перья в момент когда сыпался корм, то он начинал чистить перья, чтобы ЗАСТАВИТЬ корм снова сыпаться.

Это очень полезный ОПЫТ учёных. Это факты.

55555 said:
Если есть трафарет, то идя по кадрам жизни и меняя свою карму в лучшую сторону, мы соскальзываем с этого трафарета и переходим на более благоприятный, я правильно понимаю .avatar--xss { width: 21px; height: 21px; line-height: 21px !important; margin-right: 2px; } Веретенников Сергей @Веретенников Сергей , ?

То что я говорил на этой странице - это научные размышления.
Т.е. - это скорее всего так.
Начав размышлять, познавать - скорее всего Вы тоже придёте к такому пониманию.
Но это не окончательная истина

Но чтобы разбираться - нужно копать.
Просто необоснованно что-то предполагая разобраться невозможно.
Чем больше структурированной информации - тем больше можно понять.
Более того если совмещать Ведические Знания, научные опыты, логику - то можно узнать очень много. Гораздо больше, чем использовать только Веды, или только науку или логику.

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