Autonomy

Веретенников Сергей · Oct 8, 2020

What does Ayurveda tell us?

You may be surprised, but Ayurveda does not consider food to be a factor that nourishes a person. An Ayurvedic specialist will listen to you for a long time, about an hour, find out what you eat, when, and in what form, clarify everything, and tell you: don't eat this, continue eating that, eat less of this, eat this hot, eliminate cold foods, add this to your diet at lunch but exclude it at breakfast, and so on.
Do you see what is happening? Food is used as a regulator. In Ayurveda, there are three doshas, which are mainly regulated through food and Ayurvedic preparations or techniques.
If you eat three times a day and follow a diet properly selected for your dosha, you can live to be a hundred without illness. It is real.
But understand the emphasis of Ayurveda: THE DOSHAS. They are in the energy body. Energy is what matters. This is what Ayurveda is directed toward.
I studied Ayurveda, so I know. It is an ancient science, and it is far from being just about nutrition.
Today, Ayurveda is mainly taught for householders, that is, for ordinary people and laypeople. But this is only a small part of Ayurveda.
A huge part of it lies in the knowledge of Yoga, for those who follow the path of self-development. And there is already a "different" Ayurveda. The one that is rarely discussed today. Why? Because there are few yogis. True yogis. Not gymnasts, but yogis in the true sense.

If you decide to move step by step toward autonomy, take Ayurveda's advice into account: it is easiest for Kapha Dosha to remain without food, and hardest for Vata Dosha.
Most often, all the YouTube videos featuring people who have switched to autonomy or achieved significant results are made by people with Kapha Dosha.
But that does not mean it is impossible for Vata Dosha. It will simply be more difficult.
And I would advise those with Vata Dosha to drink hot milk with spices and honey, for example in the evening. This will calm Vata Dosha if you decide to move toward autonomy and have Vata Dosha.
Vata Dosha also needs less raw food. Therefore, predominantly cooked food is essential for Vata Dosha. Once or twice a day—as you decide. But mostly cooked food.
This way, you will make your path easier.

Веретенников Сергей · Oct 9, 2020

Why do some animals eat other animals?

Some people ask this question for a reason. They are trying to justify themselves: "If THIS exists in Nature, then we will also live naturally and eat the flesh of slaughtered animals." That is what they say. And after that, they calmly kill animals or finance mass slaughter across the Earth (by giving their money to these companies in establishments called "stores"). I think you understand how this mass slaughter is financed.

Let's examine this...

I was surprised when videos of smoking monkeys began appearing online. At first, like everyone else, I thought—how funny. Chimpanzees are given a lit cigarette, pick it up, and literally smoke it.

There are many such videos. And it is not just one particular monkey.

I was surprised a second time when I personally saw an owner giving his dog beer, and the dog eagerly drank it of its own accord!
And there are many videos online of animals happily drinking alcohol!

I will not go into well-known topics here, such as the hundredth monkey effect and so on. Whoever needs to can read about them separately.
The Hundredth Monkey Effect — Wikipedia

It is finally time to understand that we should not be taking animals as our example; they are already looking to us as their elder brothers.

Веретенников Сергей · Oct 10, 2020

I strongly recommend that you study the subject of a drug addict’s withdrawal. Try studying it yourself; there is a lot of information on this topic online.
I’ll also write a little here.

Why do I need this?

The question “Why?” sounds especially strong if you are not a drug addict... You may be surprised, but a lack of food in the body causes the same symptoms.
And the question arises: a cocaine user snorts cocaine (or uses heroin), while a person stuffs food into their stomach. Both then get high. What’s the difference?
Others go even further, injecting this filth directly into the bloodstream, bypassing the gastrointestinal tract, in order to get a stronger high. But you should also know that weakened people are injected with “food” into a vein as well. There is no difference. For example, you can read about “how people are fed while in a coma.”

Here is what scientists write about a drug addict’s withdrawal:

“Drugs become an integral part of a drug addict’s body. Without drugs, none of the body’s functions can operate normally. When a person abstains from taking drugs, withdrawal begins. The nature of withdrawal depends on the substances taken by the drug addict. Withdrawal is most severe in heroin and cocaine addiction. It manifests as severe physical discomfort.”

Every drug addict unmistakably senses the approach of withdrawal. The first symptoms of withdrawal begin to appear 8–12 hours after taking the last dose.

(Just as when food is absent)

Signs of a drug addict’s withdrawal:

Dizziness
Increased heart rate
Anxiety
Pain in the body and various parts of it (joints, head, etc.)
Chills, cold from within

If you have ever fasted, you know all of this from your own experience!

And look at what official medicine says about drug addiction: the longer a person has been addicted, the more severe the withdrawal. Also, the stronger the drug, the more severe the withdrawal.

(I think you are already drawing parallels with food yourself, but I’ll comment anyway: someone who has been addicted to food for a long time finds it harder to give it up even temporarily, and food also comes in varying degrees of harmfulness—for example, cakes, pastries, candies and chocolate, meat, etc. are the most clogging foods compared with fruit, vegetables and porridge. So understand that food has the same kind of classification)

“After the acute signs of withdrawal syndrome disappear, residual symptoms are observed in the form of an irresistible craving for the drug, low mood, dysphoria (a mood disorder characterized by a tense, angry and sorrowful affect with pronounced irritability, sometimes escalating into outbursts of rage with aggression), psychological discomfort, asthenia (a painful condition manifested by increased fatigue and exhaustion, accompanied by extreme mood instability), and sleep disturbances (the delayed phase of withdrawal syndrome). During this period, the craving for the drug is easily reactivated, which affects the patients’ behavior. They once again become hysterical and angry.

The symptoms of withdrawal disappear completely only after several months.”

The same applies, in principle, to food addiction. And all of this is written by science and medicine.

And there is something else I would like to add. One of the main treatment methods today is to give the addict smaller and smaller doses, gradually reducing them to a minimum and then to complete cessation.

I would especially like you to familiarize yourself with the effects of opiates in the article:
How Long Does Psychological Dependence on Drugs Last
Because their effects are analogous to the effects of food. Both are based on the release of endorphins and dependence on the STATE of apparent joy (happiness) after consumption. Moreover, the symptoms after giving them up are even the same.

What is especially interesting in the article at the link above is: “How do you make a drug addict undergo treatment?”

And the answer is: “You can’t.”

I liked it so much that I will quote it in full (and repeat once again: look at what you have read through the lens of food):

How do you make a drug addict undergo treatment?

You can’t. Nothing will work until they decide for themselves that they want to. But you can push them toward that decision. Usually, drug addicts begin treatment only after some severe emotional shock. This could be, for example, a serious overdose, the death or loss of someone close, or intense infatuation. They say that in such a case the addict has “hit rock bottom”—the burden of existing problems simply prevents them from continuing to use. Talk to them. Give them the opportunity to remember all the “madness” of using. While the addict is high, talking to them is almost useless. They will not hear you, and if they do hear you, they will not understand; and if they understand, they will misunderstand. It is also especially difficult to talk to them “while they are in withdrawal”—all the addict’s thoughts are about how to obtain drugs. In fact, you have about two hours between the time when the drug’s effects have almost worn off and withdrawal has not yet begun. Threatening them or, conversely, pleading with them is pointless. The addict is emotionally quite well defended. They need to intellectually feel the horror of what is happening. It is very important to be honest with the addict. Only this way can you earn their trust. Never threaten them with something you cannot do. Never promise something you cannot give. The main thing is to clearly express your attitude toward the problem. Can an addict be “bought”? That is, can you promise them something in exchange for treatment? I don’t know. Although such a situation is very common. For example, one of the centers had a girl who was “recovering in exchange for a car.” The first task of rehabilitation is to explain that a person needs to recover “for themselves.” Good centers should know how to do this. Remaining clean after treatment is helped by some kind of passionate interest. This could be work, new interests, or a desire to help other addicts. The main thing is to show the addict that another life is possible.

Веретенников Сергей · Oct 11, 2020

Buddha.

He did not eat, drink, or sleep. He sat under a tree.

Result:
A new Teaching. Millions of followers.

Christ.

He did not eat, drink, or sleep. He sat in the desert.

Result:
A new Teaching. Millions of followers.

This list could go on (Muhammad, Moses, Osiris, etc.—the result was always a new Teaching). But these are the ones most widely known.

All followers of these Teachings do the same things as their founders. For example, they observe fasts. And these fasts consist of not eating, not drinking, and not sleeping (vigils, night prayers, etc.).
For yogis, this means observing Ekadashi twice a month: not eating, not drinking, and not sleeping. At the very least.

And this is not about some random people or isolated cases. Millions of people have gone through this every year for many centuries!

Веретенников Сергей · Oct 13, 2020

Currently, an important topic for most people is protection from and liberation from various entities, parasites, curses, negative energies, etc.
One way or another, Master Jesus is recognized by many as an authority in this area. Therefore, I will quote him specifically, although I could have cited other, less well-known Masters.

So:

Matt. 17:21 “However, this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting.”

I have already discussed above what “fasting” is. Classical (true) fasting means abstaining from both food and water.

So what does “by prayer” mean?

I would put it this way: modern people do not know what this means. Although it seems very simple. In all those Hollywood horror films, priests holding a cross recite some prayers that supposedly “should” drive out evil spirits.
But neither in those films nor in reality does this happen.
You can recite prayers until you are blue in the face. Nothing is driven out.

So what did the Master mean?

Simply what all the Elders know even today. There is no secret here. By prayer, constant remembrance of God is meant: do not sleep—keep watch!

Pray = do not sleep.

How many times have we heard a phrase like this: “I stayed awake all night and prayed.” In books, films, and so on.
It is all right there on the surface. There are no secrets.

Of course, in this case, “not eating, not drinking, and not sleeping” is further intensified by another element—thoughts of the Higher.

There is no religion in what I have said. Because when Christ said all this, Christianity did not yet exist.

Веретенников Сергей · Oct 14, 2020

It should be understood that there are still few fully autonomous people on Earth.
And when you hear “don’t eat, don’t drink, don’t sleep...” this does not at all mean that if you decide to become autonomous, it will happen in your life the very next day.
But for people who are not interested in secret sciences or in their own development, and whose lives do not go beyond routine, it is extremely difficult to understand what all these people are talking about. It all seems like some kind of nonsense to them. That is how implausible it sounds.
This knowledge is so thoroughly concealed from most people that they do not even want to hear it. Such a powerful protection surrounds this knowledge.

Удалённый пользователь 26 · Oct 14, 2020

I used to hear that there are people who live on prana—breatharians and sungazers.

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Веретенников Сергей · Oct 17, 2020

In “Sutta MN 65,” the Buddha says: “Monks, I eat only once [в день]. By doing so, I am free from illness and discomfort, and I enjoy lightness, strength, and a pleasant state of being. Come, monks, eat only once. By doing so, you too will be free from illness and discomfort, and will enjoy lightness, strength, and a pleasant state of being.”

Many people who have fasted or are fasting (for therapeutic purposes) know that, in the overwhelming majority of cases, this is done with only one goal—to restore their health so they can once again enjoy consumption in every respect.
Autonomy is not like that. Autonomy shows where true enjoyment lies—for example, in the lightness of the body, its strength, and its immense energy... Sensations from childhood return: carefree playfulness, and the feeling that everything will always be all right. No worries, especially prolonged ones. There is no point in worrying about tomorrow, because you live naturally, and nature will always provide you tomorrow with whatever you need. No living creature is tormented by worries about tomorrow or burdened by heavy thoughts about the future. Everyone lives in the present.

Autonomy does not mean, “That’s it, I’m not going to eat or drink anything tomorrow”... It is a path made up of stages—a gradual movement toward freedom.

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Веретенников Сергей said:
It is a path made up of stages—a gradual movement toward freedom.

Thank you, Teacher. Yes, exactly—gradual. As I reduced my food intake, a true feeling of hunger appeared, then almost went away again. But the feeling of lightness and inner emptiness is so enticing, so pleasant, that I don’t want to lose it. Sometimes I want to grab a snack, but even one piece of fruit feels heavy, especially in the second half of the day. I simply want to give myself some pleasure, but in the end it turns into the opposite. I came up with this: instead of eating unnecessary food for psychological reasons, I get up and start dancing. It is also very pleasant, and the thought and craving for food completely disappears.
I watched the videos above. What a nightmare—the person fluctuated between 60 and 140 kg. How much willpower and courage it must have taken to break out of that cycle. Well done, Goar. It inevitably raises the thought: perhaps food is also one of our trials?!

Веретенников Сергей · Oct 18, 2020

It is noteworthy that if you tell most people that they are dirty, they will take a shower or a bath, after which they will be convinced that they have cleansed themselves.
The consciousness of most people is exactly like that. Change your clothes, brush your teeth, put cologne on yourself... And that's it: "now I'm clean."
Those few who go deeper understand that truly cleansing oneself is not so simple. And those who have cleansed the body go even further—in the direction of purity of consciousness...

An interesting experience. Many people are concerned about weakness while abstaining from food or losing weight. But it isn't there! All of that exists only during the cleansing stage. As I wrote above—withdrawal symptoms.

Веретенников Сергей · Oct 18, 2020

In the Vedic tradition (and many things that are now customary in everyday life originated there as well; I will mention them below), there is an interesting attitude toward food and drink.

Literally, it goes like this:
You eat—the place where you ate becomes impure. You drink—the same thing happens. That is why the everyday expression “wipe the table after eating” comes from the Vedic tradition.
But in the Vedic tradition, the entire place where people ate or drank was washed, because it becomes energetically contaminated.

Веретенников Сергей · Oct 19, 2020

One can say more, drawing on the Vedic tradition. If we go further, it says that the place where a person slept is also impure. Those who have studied this ancient culture, as well as brahmins living in India and elsewhere, know this.
The body in sleep is like a corpse; after handling a corpse, one must wash. That is why followers of this ancient culture can more often be seen sleeping on surfaces that can be washed, such as the floor.

I am not even mentioning the place where one relieves oneself of what one has eaten and drunk. That is even more obvious.

So, if this ancient culture and tradition says that even a place becomes dirty after a person has eaten, drunk, slept, or defecated, what happens to the body itself? We can only guess.

The Vedas recommend bathing in order to purify oneself.

In general, the more you study the Vedas, the more you understand that, most likely, people hardly ate at all—or did not eat at all—in Satya Yuga (the Golden Age).

And the sages from this Golden Age seem to be knocking on our door across the centuries in the form of scriptures: "We know that you are now in Kali Yuga, the Iron Age; you eat all sorts of things, and eat and sleep a lot, but even for you we provide ways to remain pure in this sinful age...".

And they provide these methods:

Practicing sadhana, rising early, fasting on Ekadashi, repeating the names of God, participating in Pujas, daily bathing, and so on.

Attaining sattva guna. I wrote about it — HERE.

55555 · Oct 19, 2020

I listened to Nikolai. This experience is very compelling. What I like most is gaining energy and freedom from food, as well as the mystical abilities, of course. In our "food-eating" civilization, all our energy goes into feeding ourselves (buying food, preparing food, washing dishes, cleaning the toilet, buying groceries, preparing food, and earning money for food). There is no time to do anything else. And then you sleep after eating. But here, a person is free, healthy, and able to materialize their thoughts. Amazing.

797979 · Oct 19, 2020

Om Shanti, thank you for the topic; a lot of it resonates with me, and I have been interested in this subject for a long time. I am progressing slowly, and the first step was probably switching to vegetarianism almost 12 years ago. A year and a half ago, after coming to the Ashram, I began practicing Ekadashi, but not consistently. I observe Ekadashi without water. I have become interested in trying not to sleep on the day of Ekadashi. For now, I find it difficult to comprehend how one can live without sleep at all. I readily accept that it is possible to live without food and water, but when it comes to sleep, it feels as though there is some kind of block—a belief that sleep is necessary. At the same time, I have a strong desire to reduce the amount of time I sleep, at least to four hours a day.
I have decided to undertake a dry fast once a week.

Удалённый пользователь 68 · Oct 19, 2020

Once a week, I fast without food or water. It was difficult at first, but then I got used to it

Sometimes I feel weak in the morning on the second day. I will try spending part of the second day without food or having only water.

Веретенников Сергей · Oct 20, 2020

Note that for all such health-improving breathing systems, the key phrase is: "reduce breathing".

Веретенников Сергей · Oct 21, 2020

It is especially important to emphasize that everything needs to be done gradually. Yes, it will not happen by itself; you need to use your willpower, but do not overdo it. Do it gently, but persistently

I outlined the approximate stages at the beginning of the topic. These are years of gradual steps.
You can use any cleansing methods you know to cleanse yourself more quickly. Fasting is not the only method for this.

In a sense—yes, autonomy, prana-eating, and so on come as consequences of purity, and you can sit and wait for them to come on their own. But many people do not have time to wait. Therefore: gradually, but persistently. Without going to extremes.

Удалённый пользователь 70 · Oct 22, 2020

Sri Anandamayi Ma, Devi

The best way to understand Sri Ma is not to compare her with any of the luminaries in our spiritual firmament. The recognition she received during her own lifetime was simply her presence. This is what Swami Chinmayananda said about her in Bangalore (June 1978): “When the sun is shining, no one needs to point out the sunlight.”

The harmony of opposites was the central theme of her way of life. Amid the splendor and luxury that seemed inevitable wherever she went, she lived as an ascetic. Throughout her life, she ate very little. In addition to the periods of abstinence from food that occurred from time to time, she observed other austerities as well. For many years, she ate every other day. In response to objections, Sri Ma said: “To preserve the body, it is not at all necessary to eat. I eat only because I need to maintain the appearance of normal behavior, so that you do not feel uncomfortable around me.” Eating was not connected with any of her illnesses. In fact, she was perfectly healthy when she ate nothing. Illnesses came and
went, following their own rhythm.

From Bithika Mukerji’s book “In Your Heart Is My Abode: The Life and Teachings of Sri Ma Anandamayi.” The article was edited by Christopher Pegler and published on anandamayi.org. Translated from English by Andrey Derevyanko, 2020. He thanks Anastasia Remu for her comments.

Веретенников Сергей · Oct 27, 2020

What is oleation of the body?

First of all, I want to repeat that there is nothing new about this. Ayurveda has been using it for thousands of years. I even wrote about the Panchakarma practice here: Your Yoga. Ayurveda.
Oil is taken in the morning, along with an oil massage of the entire body.

But “oleation” is something accessible to everyone. I did not spend much time searching online, although information is available from various sources. I will post only this video (although it contains a small amount of advertising, so decide for yourself whether to watch it).

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