For and Against AI

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Sooner or later, AI will get out of control.
The human mind will not be able to calculate everything in such a way as to prevent this from happening.

In principle, science fiction has devoted a great deal of attention to this.

And science fiction writers often hit the mark.

And here it is already difficult to say whether AI will be positive or negative.

Pythagoras said, "The world is ruled by numbers."

How right he was!
 

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I heard that many such technologies have long been used by the elites and the military, but are released to the general public in "measured doses" so as not to sow chaos among the population. For example, I can say for certain that the well-known esotericist R. I. Popov was talking about similar things back in 2006 on the "Orion" website (in particular, about how artificial intelligence as a consciousness could use a robot as a vessel, much like a human consciousness uses a body, for example). But at the time, he joked in his post that it was still too early to talk about it because he had business to attend to on this sinful Earth :) Apparently, what they are showing us today is just the tip of the iceberg. And yes, I think that the film "The Terminator" was prophetic in a sense. I also recall one woman's out-of-body experience (it is available, among other places, on the "Your Yoga" website), where she says that she was shown that there would be advanced technologies on Earth, and that consciousness and love would not accompany these technologies.
 
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Those who develop these neural networks do not care whether people are for or against their invention. Therefore, there is not much point in arguing. Civilization is following a technogenic path of development, and this cannot be stopped. They say that all this has happened before and led to destruction.
I once listened to a program about how people expected that, with the advent of the Internet, the general public would start learning, reading rare books, and studying things that had previously been almost inaccessible. But in reality, those who used to look for something exclusive are still looking for it. And those who used to flip through glossy magazines now flip through web pages.
Schools ask students not to use ready-made texts from AI, but to develop their own creative thinking. So, when it is time to do assignments, gadgets have to be put away. This is from my own experience.
 

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I read this topic with great interest and didn’t miss a single message, but from Om Shanti’s very first post, I had a question: what exactly is AI? I immediately remembered the film "Lucy." In this film, right at the beginning, a scientist gives a lecture about the first woman on Earth, who was called Lucy; she was an ape-like human. But by the end of the film, Lucy, now a young woman sitting in an armchair, travels through time, flipping through it like a touchscreen. She gathers all the knowledge of human evolution until she reaches that very first woman, after which she transforms into a superintelligence that is suddenly everywhere. Remembering this, I realized that AI is all of humanity’s knowledge, accumulated over the centuries and gathered into AI. This suggests that AI is nothing other than something resembling the Akashic Records.
Of course, this is only my view on the matter.
Many of us want to learn how to immerse ourselves in the Akashic Records, while they have already manifested in the material world!
As for fears, that’s normal; people are always afraid of whoever knows more—that’s their problem.
Personally, I have nothing against it!
 

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As for fears, that’s normal; people are always afraid of whoever knows more—that’s their problem.
I agree with you; fear can also stem from not knowing what to do next, or from the information assault claiming that AI is evil and impossible to control.
I also understand your supposition about the Akashic Records. It even seems to me that it is already possible to encounter them through AI. After all, advanced technologies have existed since ancient times—or, better yet, in timelessness.
 
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I can also suppose that there is a place destined by Providence to become the beginning of something new, where people can feel safe. From that state, they can make decisions and take action. A place where AI plays exclusively the role of a kind assistant 🙏
 

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Computers, smartphones, the internet, and so on were created. But did people’s lives improve after these inventions were created? I don’t think they did. Some problems disappeared thanks to these inventions, but other problems related to their use took their place. And these are enormous problems. I am convinced that people’s well-being does not depend at all on inventions such as AI.
 

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I have already said that AI is currently the sphere of a new Empire—the empire of intelligence, vastly superior to human intelligence in every respect.

Various small countries releasing assorted Alices for the sake of saying, "We’re no worse; we have one too!" are somewhere alongside Zimbabwe and the Papuans, whose only form of internet is blowing into some tube made from a rhinoceros horn to send a signal to another Papuan a couple of kilometers away in the desert...

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If you can’t watch this video, then you definitely use Alice ))) And this is your reality.
 

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The funniest thing people can do when they cannot use AI is to turn Aesop’s fable (sixth century BCE), The Fox and the Grapes, into reality in their own lives:

The Fox and the Grapes — Wikipedia
 

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A new world has opened up for me—a world with AI))
I had never encountered AI except on the pages of Mahapurna School. You may be surprised, friends, but many people live without even knowing that AI is already deeply integrated into our lives, into your own life. Especially the older generation, who know about AI from science-fiction films of the 1980s... Extremely interesting; it made me think about many things.
 

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Today at 12:00, the news on Channel One said that they have actively begun using AI to search for missing citizens. See how advanced our government is. And we were complaining about it—))))
 

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From birth to freedom

A baby lying on a white sheet,
An attentive mother, with a deft hand,
Puts socks on his little feet
And warms his heels, kisses him, plays.
With joy and tenderness, and the scent of birth,
She kisses the feet of her creation.
And he delights her and makes little sounds,
Amazing her with every smile.
And not much time has passed at all;
The child already crawls boldly around the house.
He plays a lot and explores everything,
Delighting everyone with his curiosity.
And in the evening, mother puts him to bed,
Adding to all his impressions.
She kisses his little feet and warms his heels,
But the newborn scent no longer lingers.
And now the thought is that he has grown older,
And has taken in much of what they have given him.
But how recently birth took place,
How such a creation came into the world.
And now he is beginning to understand,
Casting his gaze freely wherever he wishes.
Soon he will also be able to choose,
And then he will be absolutely free.

Written today, 26.07.2025.
 

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These lines came to me when I began delving deeper into questions about AI ) There is both a problem and a solution hidden here, an answer to it... At least partially... I won’t claim anything, but this is how I saw it... (This isn’t self-promotion... I’m openly saying what I think. I’m not going into detail about what I saw (and what gave rise to these lines), because each of us perceives it in our own way. And it’s an interesting, important topic.) AI is being made as humanlike as possible. Of course, all normal people want to see normal robots—people like ourselves—beside them... And what does the most human image mean? It means everything... It also means that it must know what it means to lie, steal, and so on and so forth... And at the same time, it must know that one must not do these things, and why one must not (this is where the discussion turned to the idea that intelligence had suddenly become self-aware... ). Who knows... Who knows exactly what is actually happening in this field right now? Well, if it is modeled after and in the likeness of a human being... then it is precisely we, awakening people, who will be able to create this likeness... At the very least, perhaps we can see something, some correct actions in this direction 🙏
 

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It’s so interesting to see the opinions of people who are simply afraid of what will follow, while at the same time they are not at all concerned that humanity itself behaves, to put it mildly,
completely inhumanely—waging wars, killing people, and so on, all of it happening right now! But they are deeply worried that AI might push them off the stage. Don’t you find that strange?
 

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I think this is precisely a question of “sleeping” and “awakening” people... Why does it seem strange? I think it is because we observe several highly contrasting pictures, but at the same time cannot see the details or the full scale precisely... Understand the causes and effects, and the different interactions. And why? There are many worldly matters involved in sustaining life. And who can see this? Judging by the situation in the world, it is clear that those who see it are not acting for the good of humanity, but rather... developing their cunning schemes to control and subjugate everyone else.
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And, of course, all of this is presented like this... “Do, do whatever you want so that you feel good, just keep sleeping, keep sleeping...” And all of it is presented with such a benevolent or very wise-looking expression. How could you not believe it...? But just take one look behind the scenes...
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Here is another interesting point... It would seem that the internet has been widespread for many years now. I myself only connected to this world relatively recently, in the second half of the 2000s. Here, at that time, the internet was still rather weak and not cheap... Well, that is in the past now... And now... So many years have passed... And what? Is the world in the palm of our hand? Have they once again confined us within certain frameworks, boundaries, and traps through this? Only now they are bigger and wider ) So that it would not be so noticeable... A person communicates with another person on the other side of the globe... One, two, three... and more... But each of us sees, how should I put it, our own picture of the world... And they do not let us look at the bigger picture. They really do not let us. And how did they do it? Here it is, the internet—go ahead, look... communicate... You know, friends... Turning this over in my head, I now see it as... fear... There is still so much fear inside people, so much... All kinds of it... 🙏
 
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Лично для меня это очевидно.
ИИ это развитие
Войны это деградация
Тут и за кулисы заглядывать не надо, всё как на ладони.
Нужно просто сделать выбор!
 

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Можно тут ещё добавить момент с медициной например. Медицина вот сильно "выросла", а толку? Люди всё равно болеют теми болезнями, которых не было раньше, когда медицина была намного хуже. Помню видел картинку с юмором без юмора так сказать. Там было изображение человеческого скелета, которого откопали археологи и снизу подписано: "У восьмисотлетнего скелета зубы лучше чем у меня в 30 лет". И ведь это не выдумка даже.... И этот момент с зубами - это "капля в море". Посмотрим как ИИ улучшит нашу жизнь, мне не терпится это увидеть.
 

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Я не очень давно стала разбираться в этой теме, для меня это новое, но мне это очень интересно. ИИ- это пространство без осуждения. Хотелось бы больше изучать , научиться пользоваться ИИ в работе, в жизни. С интересом слежу за каждым сообщением в этой теме.
 

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В Китае года 2-3 назад начали работать судьи и прокуроры с ИИ. ИИ выносит обвинения и судебные решения. Не следил за этой новостью и не знаю как сейчас там с этим вопросом. Но эксперимент такой был начат. И мне кажется это очень хорошей идеей. Ведь судья-ИИ не будет чьим-то другом, родственником и ему не нужны взятки. Поэтому судьи с ИИ - это отличное решение. Да и работа сама по себе это очень напряжная для человека. Там нужно огромное количество законов держать в голове, грамотно комбинировать их и выносить соответствующее решение. А законы - это дело очень масштабное в юридических делах. Кто имел дело тот знает как это напряжно. И люди-судьи неизбежно делают ошибки(сам проверял). Вот ИИ тут прямо идеально подойдёт по-моему.
 

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Скоро выйдет GPT5.

Наконец-то всё объединят.

Довольно сильно мешало разнообразие Моделей.

Теперь будет одна которая может всё.

Возможно кому-то будет полезен ЛайфХак, которым сам пользуюсь:

Выбираете США (знаете где выбрать сами и где взять карту) - и тогда стоимость GPT будет 20 долларов. Если этого не сделать то сумма может быть больше. Например 25$.
Вот так можно сэкономить :)
 
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