Victory over Addictions

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@3161, of course no one owes anyone anything; it is a matter of conscience!
And I did not accuse anyone; I merely told a story so that everyone could see in it that not everything that glitters is gold—and how you interpreted it for yourself 🤷‍♀️ is your right 🙏
First, you wrote that people walked past and did not help, and then added something about a hardened heart, etc.
 

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For the most part, this is what happens:

People who are addicted themselves pretend to heal other people of addictions.

I have actually seen people who were addicted to smoking encode other people who were addicted to alcohol.

Hocus-pocus :)

There are practically no families where someone has not been labeled an addict and where everyone has not united to fight that person's addiction :)

The funny thing is that an addict is called someone who actually starts causing trouble.

Why do people so often fight only alcoholics and drug addicts?

Because they bother those around them.

If you are addicted to sugar, well, so be it—sit off to the side, chew and get fat... No one will touch you.

And these sugar-chewers will look down on those who "chew" vodka or heroin...

Yes, there are sincere people who want to help out of love.

But first, overcome your own addictions!

If a mother has a son who uses drugs, what she really communicates to him is not her concern about his addiction, but her own fears (that her son is damaging his health, throwing away money, ruining his life...).

Well, her son is running into this nonsense precisely to escape his fears!

She is merely "helping" him...

Or have I already given you this real-life example?

A mother forbade her teenage son to vape. I think that is what this nonsense is called.

Her son grew up.

When he reached 16, he started smoking tobacco...

She ran to a psychologist.

— Oh, my boy has already started smoking!!!!!!

The psychologist's actual response:

— Keep forbidding him; he will start smoking marijuana, and then move on to heroin.
 

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For the most part, this is what happens:

People who are themselves under the influence of addictions pretend to heal other people from addictions.

I have actually seen people who were addicted to smoking encode other people who were addicted to alcohol.

Hocus-pocus :)

There are practically no families where someone has not been labeled an addict and where everyone has not joined forces to fight that person’s addiction :)

The funny thing is that an addicted person is called someone who actually starts bothering others.

Why do they so often fight only alcoholics and drug addicts?

Because they cause trouble for those around them.

If you are addicted to sugar, well, God be with you—sit off to the side, chew, and get fat... No one will touch you.

And these sugar-chewers will look down on those who “chew” vodka or heroin...

Yes, there are sincere people who want to help out of love.

But first, overcome your own addictions!

If a mother has a son who uses drugs, she is not really conveying her concern about his addiction to him—she is conveying her own fears (that her son is ruining his health, throwing away money, ruining his life...).

Well, her son is running into this stuff precisely to escape his fears!

The mother is only “helping” him...

Or have I already given you this real-life example?

A mother forbade her teenage son from vaping. I think that is what this stuff is called.

Her son grew older.

When he turned 16, he started smoking tobacco....

She ran to a psychologist.

“Oh, my boy has already started smoking!!!!!!”

The psychologist’s actual response:

“Keep forbidding him—he will start smoking marijuana, and then he will end up on heroin.”
The best advice, which really does work exactly that way
 

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I believe this is a matter of Karma. Why, for example, is a person drawn to overeating sweets? And the urge is irresistible; one has to apply willpower, which nevertheless quickly runs out, and the person eats far more than they would have if they had not even tried to use willpower. Here, Karma in this area needs to be weakened. People not only try to use willpower, but also try to follow various psychological rules, and so on; the list of treatments can be endless. But for many people, none of this works anyway. I myself struggled with some addictions in various ways, with absolutely no success. Only over time did I feel my addictions’ karma weakening, and the addictions themselves gradually leaving me. I remember it was like that with computer games: some kind of force was pulling me toward them, even though I did not want to play them and knew I was only wasting my time and had many other more important and interesting things to do. Yet I kept playing, playing, playing, playing, playing. And every second I was playing, I knew I should not be playing and dreamed of my urge to play computer games ending as soon as possible.
 

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This is the most confusing part)

Every person consists of several components, so to speak. We all have a body with its needs (for warmth and nourishment, for example). We all have a mind, which usually thinks it is the most important :), and it seems that we all have a Soul, the Higher Self...

And for me, for example, the most difficult thing is to understand what the Soul, the Higher Self, wants. And if I have picked up some kind of signal that seems to be from the Soul, how do I know it wasn't my mind that produced it?

And a new cycle begins—WHO AM I?:D
Namaste! 😊 A very interesting topic! It was difficult for me too to understand what my Body, my Soul, and my Mind wanted. And I felt that I had to break out of the vicious circle I had found myself in. And do you know what decision I made? 🤔 Yes. Yes. A radical one for me... In the autumn of 2024, I went to live in the forest (in a cabin with a wood-burning stove). There was electricity ⚡, of course, but no internet. MTS, Beeline, and MegaFon signals did not reach my home. And why am I writing all this? I simply learned a lot of new things about myself. It was a revelation to me that I could live in a room where the temperature was +5 to +10°C. I absolutely could not stand the cold! I had always considered myself someone who loved warmth. And what happened to my body next? I fell in love with the cold! I fell in love with icy water! And now, in 2025, I think: how could I have lived without the cold? Of course, there had been attempts: pouring cold water over myself, immersing myself in a spring at +4°C, swimming on Epiphany. But my body still resisted it. The conclusion: there was no habit. It has to be created! Cultivated! Perhaps even endured! Accepted! Realized! 😊 And what do I need now at the School of Sergei Veretennikov? 🤔 To develop the habit of analyzing my own thoughts and other people's as well, sharing impressions, and discussing such important topics as “a rational approach is also an addiction”... 😑 🤨 WHAT? Today I am reading the words of the Teacher of the Mahapurna School: “Some people think they are the body, some the mind, and some the soul. What is it that you yourself want?”
 

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Now, while reading the messages, a thought occurred to me... The Matrix, which everyone wants to escape from... The more addictions there are—the more firmly one is stuck in the Matrix 🙏 I also want to add... There is such a phrase: “Dependent on circumstances...” It turns out that a person creates a mountain of circumstances themselves, and then becomes dependent on them. But it can also be put this way: the Matrix creates the circumstances of dependence. I become independent, and in doing so I escape from the Matrix. And one more important point—as you gradually escape, or perhaps instantly :), you become the creator of your own reality 🙏 And every time I think something through, analyze something, try to understand it—whether it is addictions or something else—and try to get to the very beginning, I always arrive at the same thing—God 🙏
 
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Reflecting on dependencies quite recently, I asked myself a question: What can a person always do? Or not do...? I’ll lay everything out now, or at least try to. I’ll write it as I saw it in the moment and what I ultimately arrived at.

So I asked myself: What can a person always do, or not do?

Always not do anything.

They cannot always think or reflect. They cannot always perform physical actions. As for nourishment—can they always refrain from eating? People say there are those who live without eating. So, apparently, they can refrain from consuming food. But a person does, after all, nourish themselves with Prana found in the air... (or wherever it is found...). That is, they can always breathe. But they already breathe all the time anyway... (more on that below...)

Now, what can they always do?

They cannot always think or reflect. They cannot always act physically. As for nourishment, it seems they can always eat?

Sleep—can they always sleep, or always stay awake? No.

I am not considering exceptions such as a person in a coma, or processes that are always taking place in the body. The heart beats. Yet there are people who can slow their pulse down or speed it up. And that means they can stop the heart as well. I am speaking about the general case here.

But let me return to nourishment. A person can, after all, stop breathing (make themselves do it...). Of course, death will follow. And here an interesting point arises! (At least, that is what happened to me in the course of my reflections...) And another brief digression...

So, performing physical actions, thinking, sleeping, eating ordinary food, feeling (?)—none of this can be done forever, nor can it always be avoided (except perhaps eating ordinary food, which can always be avoided...).

And so it turns out that one can always allow oneself—and specifically allow oneself (I’ll explain below)—to breathe.

Now I return to “An interesting point has arisen!” When a person is born, at the moment of birth, they take their first breath. And, in my view, they decide—yes, they truly decide—to live. And with a cry and a wail, this decision is carried throughout the Universe!

I see something special here. Very special. And it is precisely breathing while being aware that you are breathing—allowing yourself to do this by remembering the decision to live that you once made.
 
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We know for certain that addiction tries to replace happiness.

And for a few moments, it even seems to succeed. For the first few moments.

So why don’t people choose happiness itself as their addiction?

It would be logical, after all.

Don’t you think?

After all, whichever book you open or film you watch, everyone talks about happiness...

It exists!

So why, instead of a bottle of beer, porn, or the urge to nag one’s husband or humiliate one’s wife, don’t we choose IT right away?

Why choose such a ridiculous path to it?

For example: work hard for a long time, earn money, go to the store, stand in line at the checkout with a bottle of beer, then gulp down that bitter swill, which will disrupt the brain’s normal functioning....

Why take such a difficult path?

Why not choose HAPPINESS right away?
 

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Namaste to everyone interested.

I think I have a fairly rare experience for this blessed place—the experience of real dependence on illegal substances. In my youth it was alcohol; at a more mature :))) age, marijuana.

My dependence on the latter was close to obsession. And now I can say that drug addiction is terrible because it is so powerful that it displaces what you are used to considering yourself and practically takes over control of your body. It has absolutely no interest in the fact that your debt has exceeded several hundred thousand. It takes control and buys more. But it also has an instructive aspect.

I think no layperson is capable of understanding the Four Noble Truths of Buddhism as well as an addict. And, in general, of understanding the essence of Samsara. When you are a spiritual practitioner and an addict at the same time, and these two forces are constantly in conflict within you, you hold a piece of hashish in your hands and understand with all your soul: there it is, Samsara. In the most concentrated form possible for you.

Then you look at other people and understand that they are the same. No, they do not walk through parks looking for stashes. They are not drug addicts or even alcoholics. But they, too, are captivated by something of their own—something material and considered supremely valuable. Their Samsara, however, does not have such a powerful, concentrated embodiment. That is why they are unlikely to notice anything at all, because their addiction is the conventional norm, and recognizing its painful nature is much harder than in the case of drugs.

You cannot get rid of dependence. You can only switch to something stronger. That is why God, or a Higher Power, is so important in the Twelve-Step Program (Narcotics Anonymous). For clarity, here are the first three steps of the program:


1. We admitted that we were powerless over our addiction and that our lives had become unmanageable.


2. We came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.


3. We made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.

You see, they understood that there is no escape from dependence. Because, essentially, dependence is simply the natural human desire to be happy, passed through a multitude of distorting mirrors. The mirrors are illusory, but the desire for wholeness is the most real thing there can be within us. And it cannot be eliminated. It can only be purified. The desire can be redirected from drugs (or other stimulants) toward God.

How did I stop? At the age of 34, I finally began working as what I had long wanted to be: a psychologist. And I very quickly realized that I love my clients. I love what I do. I love myself in this role. And if marijuana remained in my life, I would lose all of this. And now I am clean. I had tried giving up substances before, but then I was held by willpower and guilt. Sooner or later, I would relapse. Now, however, I feel that I am held by Love. And I believe in it.
 

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0 000888 , quoted message thank you for your post, and for not being afraid to share your story.
Essentially, yes, your post clearly illustrates what the Teacher wrote about: an addiction to substances, an intermediary, came between you and happiness. You could have chosen happiness—God—right away. Without intermediaries.
As I was writing, I realized that perhaps those who choose an intermediary between themselves and God, between themselves and happiness, are essentially deceiving themselves. They do not believe that God (happiness) is true happiness. They do not fully trust God.
The greatest deception of our age is the belief that an intermediary can and must exist.....
 

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Thank you for your comment. There is actually nothing for me to fear; I speak freely about such things. Addiction is an important part of my life and of my learning in this world.

There is one subject that truly concerns me. Both you and OM Shanti raise it. It is the question of choice.

And you know, I have come to the conclusion that most people simply have no choice. There are two categories of people: those who have encountered numinous energies, things that seem greater than their ego. These are people who have, in essence, sensed the Divine with at least a small part of their consciousness. And then there are people who have simply never had such an experience. Regarding the first category, I can still allow for a choice between certain enslaving pleasures—that is, any material pleasures—and spiritual practice. But the second category simply has no such choice. They are utterly alone in their inner prison of coarse attachments. No alternative exists in their subjective world. This is how modern society is structured; esotericism has only recently begun to reach the masses, and even now it consists more of magical than spiritual practices. Most often, people come to God through sorrow, seeking comfort and the discovery of new meanings. And even then, it is impossible to experience spiritual joy instantly. So this is a very narrow path.

For me personally, I consider the most treacherous trap to be arrogance instead of compassion. Because, it seems to me, I have not yet known compassion. But I would very much like to.
 

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One of the biggest mistakes on the path to freedom from addiction

One of the biggest mistakes on the path to freedom from addiction is not overcoming the addiction, but moving on to a new one.

A person thinks:
“I did it. I don’t do that anymore. I’ve won.”

But in reality, they may have simply exchanged one chain for another.

When I was studying at university, I had a friend. His wife decided to quit smoking. She really did stop smoking. From the outside, it could have looked like a victory.

She had her own atmosphere and lifestyle: St. Petersburg rock music, a social circle where almost everyone smoked, a particular environment in which a cigarette was part of the lifestyle. But she decided: “No, I’m not going to smoke.”

And she didn’t smoke.

But at the same time, alcohol appeared in her life. She had a strong sexual addiction. There were other addictions as well—perhaps less striking and less noticeable, but they also held her captive.

In other words, the cigarettes were gone.
But the inner lack of freedom remained.

And this is a very important point.

Freedom is not simply when a person stops smoking, drinking, overeating, gambling, sitting on their phone, or being dependent on relationships.

Freedom is when the mechanism of addiction itself disappears from within.

Because addiction can change its clothing.
Today it appears as a cigarette.
Tomorrow—as alcohol.
The day after tomorrow—as passion, food, communication, work, recognition, the internet, spiritual practices, or even a “proper lifestyle.”

Yes, addiction can put on white robes and say:
“Now I’m spiritual.”

But a chain is still a chain, even if it has been polished until it shines.

Therefore, the point of the journey is not simply to get rid of one specific addiction.

The point is to become a free person.

Not someone who heroically restrains themselves from an old habit while still searching inside for something to fill the emptiness.

But someone who gradually reclaims their strength, clarity, dignity, and inner foundation.

That is exactly what I am talking about in this topic.

Not fighting one habit.
Not replacing one addiction with another.
Not a beautiful illusion of victory.

But genuine liberation.

A state in which you are no longer a slave to impulse.
Not a slave to desire.
Not a slave to inner emptiness.
Not a slave to the habit of seeking outside yourself what must be born within.

Because true freedom does not begin when the cigarette disappears.

It begins when there is no longer a place inside a person where addiction can drive in its hook.
 

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It seems to me that a major mistake is when a person tries to get rid of an addiction solely through their own efforts—for example, through willpower alone. It is like fighting darkness in a dark room. Light is needed. And all light comes from the Creator. A person is created to be connected with the Creator, to be the conduit through which light enters this world. Personal effort is certainly necessary, but it must be combined with the help of the Higher One. 🙏
 

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Perhaps a person cannot be independent. We depend on many things—for example, the weather, the body, circumstances, responsibilities, our parents during childhood, finances, and so on. Having healthy dependencies without fanaticism is not a bad thing.
Once, an angel longed for freedom and became fallen.
I think true freedom is dependence on God.
 

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Because true freedom does not begin when the cigarette disappears.

It begins when there is no longer a place inside a person where addiction can sink its hook.
Oh, how aptly and beautifully put. Reflecting on my rich life experience, I now understand that all sorts of addictions arose in me when there was emptiness in my soul. Even now, I cannot say that I have no dependencies at all—being here at the school, in the Ashram, they are becoming fewer and fewer. I would very much like to repeat the spontaneous experience I had in my youth—the opening of the anahata chakra, apparently. I felt my chest expand and an immense, all-encompassing love for the world, absolutely everything, without reservation. When the world around me began to play with vivid colors, the scents of flowers became stronger, and the space around me changed—it was alive, and I felt it with my whole body. It is difficult to describe in words that state of bliss, immense love, and understanding that everything is so beautiful and harmonious. At that moment, I was absolutely full of love—love for the entire world. Yearning for that state has accompanied me throughout my life. I was still a student then, about 20 or 21 years old.
 

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I can say that I definitely fall for this hook—the substitution of one addiction for another. Perhaps if you at least begin to recognize that this exists within you, replacing it with something less destructive is still better than making no attempt to change anything. It is human nature to seek pleasure. Perhaps this is connected with memories of another world. The substitution probably consists in replacing this true feeling with material things—smoking, alcohol, shopping, collecting, and so on. I never thought that spirituality could also become an addiction. Perhaps it can, but maybe at first it is necessary so that a person at least turns in that direction and develops a beneficial habit. On the other hand, if it is merely an addiction—an apparent spirituality—it is easy to fall into fanaticism, sectarianism, or dogmatism and condemnation. I agree that without God, without that state of true love, if a person has been fortunate enough to experience it, it is very difficult to distinguish one from the other. And perhaps this search itself is where the trap lies.
 

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When I was looking through this thread from the beginning today, I was planning to write that spiritual practice can also be an addiction. And here, that is exactly what is being discussed.
I realized this simply by observing at first. Later, I connected it with astrology as well.
Spiritual practice is the 12th house of the horoscope—the last house of the horoscope and the last house of moksha (there are three in total), and also the house of addictions. It is impossible to attain liberation in the 12th house while skipping the previous two houses of moksha, the 4th and 8th.
The 4th house is the depths of the psyche, the depths of consciousness, and emotions. If there is some disorder here, or even serious disorder, then in the 12th house there will be only illusions.
The 8th house is about getting to know yourself from the inside out, going through profound transformational lessons, concrete life experiences and crises, and emerging from them as a better version of yourself.
Then the 12th house will be about integrating all experience, where everything is interconnected with everything else, about purification and liberation.

Likewise, opposite the 12th house is the 6th house—the house of routine duties and service to others, the house of inner and outer enemies and conflicts. This house is about the need to resolve everyday tasks and problems so that they do not grow into a crisis, the ability to handle conflicts, and so on. With weak placements in this house, a person may try to escape from all this into the house opposite it, the 12th, drinking alcohol or immersing themselves in “spirituality” (escaping from reality) at a time when life requires them to remain in the 6th house and deal with its tasks.
 
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Review — Reviews, continuation on the Intensive for Liberation from Addictions

Intensive for Liberation from Addiction

How to get rid of bad habits, addictions, beliefs, etc.

It has been more than a year since I raised the topic of overcoming addictions at the Mahapurna School.

And those who study diligently here have already realized that it is easier to haul a 16 kg kettlebell every day than to struggle with addictions :)

As for those who do not study diligently, they have not even realized that. Good luck on the path of ignorance and sweet dreams...

The most amazing thing is that the internet is full of all kinds of "teachers" who teach you to communicate with the Higher Powers, with the Soul, with God... yet they are overflowing with addictions.

I do not even know what you learn from them.
Do you learn how to accept their low vibrations?

But all right, let us continue.

At least now there are a few people who genuinely want to develop.

And it is not difficult for me to assume that nothing is working.

Yes, it is difficult!



But what I am going to tell you now is thousands of years old. I would even say tens of thousands of years old. In other words, imagine this: what you are about to read is something people have been doing for tens of thousands of years.

And it is intended specifically to purify our desires. Because all addictions are connected with our desires.

More precisely, what you call addictions and what I call addictions are the gross manifestation of our desires.

That is, if you go to ordinary people and tell them that eating is bad, they will not understand you. But they will understand when the subject is overeating or eating at night.

It is the same process—the act of eating. For many people, eating is normal, while overeating is bad. And this is connected with the same feeling, the same desire—the desire to eat.

And this excess, degradation, and perverted use of the same desire is what addiction is.

In mild form, it is normal; in excess, it becomes an addiction.

That is why the Vedas say that desires can and should be purified. And people have been doing this for tens of thousands of years. Of course, not all people, only those who know about it.

Or those who study at my School. Just kidding.

So how do we purify our desires so that they stop being called addictions?

I will continue with food. I think this is the clearest example for everyone.

I have probably already created hundreds of posts everywhere possible: on social networks, on the website, at my School, and anywhere else I could, informing people that eating meat is bad.

Bad primarily for them, not for the animals. Although the two are interconnected.

The Bhagavad Gita says that food exists in the three gunas of material nature: sattva, rajas, and tamas.

Tamas is the lowest state there is. This is, essentially, what ordinary people call addictions.

I think you already understand what needs to be done.

If you ate meat, start eating vegetables. Or beans, peas, rice, soy, or nuts. There is a huge variety of food besides meat.

People who eat meat understand this very well. They simply cannot give up these low vibrations; they are drawn to them.

And it is a cycle: a person eats meat, lowers their vibrations, and the lowered vibrations make the person eat meat.

That is precisely why people went on retreats: to enter spiritual life abruptly and free themselves from the influence of low vibrations. Then they simply continued the spiritual life they had entered with the help of the retreat.

The essence is very simple.

If you overeat at night and, for example, eat meat at night, start drinking milk at night. With honey, turmeric, and ginger—it is very tasty and even beneficial in some sense.

If you eat meat in general, start eating nuts and soy. There are excellent soy products. There is even soy sausage now—anything you like. There is even vegetarian fish and caviar.

Everything is available.

It looks exactly the same. Sometimes it even tastes better. It may be a little more expensive. But in fact, pure karma is more important than money.

At the Ashram, I told you long ago: if you watch hardcore porn, start watching softcore porn, then simply erotica, and afterward merely nude art...

And that is already normal. No one will blame you for appreciating beauty :) Not even God.

And this applies to absolutely everything.

I am simply giving examples that are daily and ordinary for many people, and they cannot cope with them.

You can always step back.

Not give it up—step back.

If you drink vodka, start drinking beer. That is already one step back.

Yes, both are bad. But you are already purifying your desires; you are already on the way.

When you start drinking beer, the coarse energies of vodka weaken and release their hold on you.

Then you can move on, for example, to some expensive wine.

I do not mean that you will drink expensive wine by the bottle, but rather that an aesthetic form of alcohol use emerges: aesthetics, beauty, a large glass, a little wine.

It becomes beautiful.

You move toward something beautiful from something ugly and unpleasant—something that even makes you feel bad afterward, and that makes many people not want to live at all.

Do you understand?

At my Ashram. I have been talking about this for a long time.

If you are not yet in "My Ashram," be sure to join it. I provide very rapid development because I explain everything very simply.

If you go to some sect or some religion, they will simply take control of you, use you, and then spit you out.

I give you complete freedom in your studies.

And many who have completed it can already say—and do say, as you have repeatedly read both here and at the Ashram—that people make progress literally within a few months.

But many people prefer to study under all sorts of upstarts who simply want to make money from you.

They merely put on a staged expression in front of the mirror, pretending to be kind and happy and able to give you happiness too.

But this is only mirror practice and has nothing to do with genuine development.

Yes, sometimes—and sometimes frequently—I repeat certain things.

Because people are lazy.

And now I have repeated what I said many years ago.

At my Ashram.

You do not have to wait for me to repeat something someday; perhaps I will not repeat it.

Life will not wait for you.

It has a tendency to pass by.
 

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There was a funny illustration recently of what OM Shanti writes about.

After giving up marijuana more than a year and a half ago, I switched to elite Chinese tea. It is a whole new world of tastes and aromas, a true paradise for an aesthete. Each variety has its own character. But... Unfortunately, I do not know how to be moderate. Having found such an outlet, I began to abuse it and drink a lot of tea.
And there is no shortage of caffeine in elite varieties. Life was normal, I was successful at work, everything was fine in my relationships with people, and a random police patrol did not cause any inner tension... :) But I no longer had enough energy for meditation in the morning, because I woke up already slightly tired and remained that way until I drank my morning tea. I consider meditation the cornerstone of life; it is my sadhana.
So I decided to undertake an austerity from caffeine, for at least a year. It was a difficult decision, since caffeine is the final frontier of drug addiction, the last psychoactive substance—and a completely socially acceptable one at that. Still, I made the decision and removed caffeine from my diet. After a few days, meditation naturally returned to my life, which I am very happy about.

So, shortly before giving up tea, I decided to indulge one last time. I bought four different teas, very good ones. I decided to go to the countryside and have one last “binge.” I went to the village, only to discover that I had left the tea in the city. I was very upset and even angry with myself. I found some ordinary black tea in the village cupboards and brewed that instead... And it was disgusting! It was as if I had brewed a stale broom. So I completely agree with the idea that once you get used to something good, you really do not want to go back to something bad; it is better to give it up entirely than to torment yourself.
 
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